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  • ID: I14214
  • Name: Elizabeth de ARGENTEIN
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: @#DJULIAN@ ABT 1312 in Melbourn,Royston,Cambridgeshire,England,,
  • Reference Number: ems-jw
  • Death: @#DJULIAN@ 1400
  • Note:
    The following information taken from Medieval English Genealogy website at:
    http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/arg/argoutl1.shtml

    On John de Argentein and his wife Joan's family:

    Some interesting light is shed on the family's domestic arrangements by a surviving set of accounts for 1317-8 from the manor of Melbourn (Palmer), where they seem to have been living at thetime. We know from later evidence that Joan's elder daughters, Joan and Elizabeth were married to two brothers, John and William, the sons of Ralph Boteler (or Butler). (The younger daughter,Denise, died without issue.) Evidently they were married extremely young. In fact, the marriages must have been arranged immediately after their status as heiresses was apparent, because in theMelbourn accounts occurs an 'Aid for marrying the lord's eldest daughter'. The young bridegrooms also seem to have been living at Melbourn: the accounts also contain expenses for 'littlesocks', 'shoes' and 'slippers' for John Boteller, and 'linen cloth for the use of John Boteller and his brother'.

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    Other than the reference to Ralph, the father of William, in the above text this marriage seems to fit all of the criteria. The Elizabeth who married William of Wem d. 1369 is not theElizabeth de Holand who was daughter of Robert de Holand and Maud la Zouche because that Elizabeth married Sir Henry FitzRoger in 1340 (AR line 261-35) with no evidence of divorce or earlydeath. The other William (of Warrington d 1380) that Elizabeth de Argentein might have married, is said (AR line 170-30) to have married Elizabeth de Havering.




    Father: John Baron de ARGENTEIN b: @#DJULIAN@ ABT 1278 in Wymondley, Hertfordshire, England
    Mother: Joane BRYAN b: @#DJULIAN@ ABT 1283 in Throcking, Hertfordshire, England
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