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  • ID: I19485
  • Name: @*Elizabeth de Argentein
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1316 in Melbourn, Royston, Cambridgeshire, England
  • Note: The following information taken from Medieval English Genealogy website at:
  • Note: http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/arg/argoutl1.shtml
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  • Note: On John de Argentein and his wife Joan's family:
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    Some interesting light is shed on the family's domestic arrangements by a surviving set of accounts for 1317-8 from the manor of Melbourn (Palmer), where they seem to have been living at the time. We know from later evidence that Joan's elder
    daughters, Joan and Elizabeth were married to two brothers, John and William, the sons of Ralph Boteler (or Butler). (The younger daughter, Denise, died without issue.) Evidently they were married extremely young. In fact, the marriages must
    have been arranged immediately after their status as heiresses was apparent, because in the Melbourn accounts occurs an 'Aid for marrying the lord's eldest daughter'. The young bridegrooms also seem to have been living at Melbourn: the accounts
    also contain expenses for 'little socks', 'shoes' and 'slippers' for John Boteller, and 'linen cloth for the use of John Boteller and his brother'.
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    Other than the reference to Ralph, the father of William, in the above text this marriage seems to fit all of the criteria. The Elizabeth who married William of Wem d. 1369 is not the Elizabeth de Holand who was daughter of Robert de Holand and
    Maud la Zouche because that Elizabeth married Sir Henry FitzRoger in 1340 (AR line 261-35) with no evidence of divorce or early death. The other William (of Warrington d 1380) that Elizabeth de Argentein might have married, is said (AR line
    170-30) to have married Elizabeth de Havering.
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  • Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
  • Note: Page: 77-33
  • Note: Text: Elizabeth, perhaps Holand of Upholland, but not daughter of Robert, Lord Holand, since his dau married by 1340 Sir Henry Fitz Roger.
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  • Note: Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
  • Note: Page: II:232
  • Note: Text: Elizabeth (no last name)
  • Change Date: 2 OCT 2006



    Father: @*John Argentein b: ABT 1278 in Wymonddley, Hertfords, England
    Mother: @*Joane Bryan b: ABT 1283 in Throcking, Hertfordshire, England

    Marriage 1 @*William le Boteler b: ABT 1318 in Wem,England
      Children
      1. Has Children @*Elizabeth le Boteler b: ABT 1345 in Wem,Shropshire & Oversley, Warwickshire, Eng
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