J.H. Garner Genealogy Database

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  • ID: I7540
  • Title: Sir 1 2 3 4
  • Name: Thomas de Montague EARL OF SALISBURY 1 2 3 4
  • Title: Sir
  • Name: Thomas DE MONTAGUE
  • Sex: M
  • Change Date: 06 JAN 2010
  • Event: Milit_Serv JUN 1428 Calais, France
  • Note: Landed with 6,000 English troops to join the Duke of Bedford to crush the French resistance to English supremacy in France.
  • Birth: 1388 1 5 4
  • Death: 03 NOV 1428 in Siege of Orléans, Meung, Loiret, France
  • Note: Mortally wounded in battle. 6 7 8
  • Event: Accedence 1409
  • Note: 4th Earl of Salisbury. 9
  • Event: Note ABT 1414
  • Note: Appointed as a Knight of the Garter. 10 11
  • Event: Milit_Serv 08 SEP 1428 Meung, Loiret, France
  • Note: Easily captured the city.
  • Event: Milit_Serv 26 SEP 1428 Beaugency, Loiret, France
  • Note: The town surrendered to the Englsih forces after a short siege.
  • Event: Medical 24 OCT 1428
  • Note: He ascended one of the two towers to survey the French positions. A cannon ball from one of the French wall guns crashed through the window. Debris from the shot tore away half of the English commander's face. The wound proved to be mortal & he died about a week later.
  • Event: Milit_Serv 1427 Montargis, Loiret, France
  • Note: Repulsed from his siege of the city. Returned to England.



    Father: John de Montague EARL OF SALISBURY b: 1350 in of Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
    Mother: Maud FRANCIS b: ABT 1360 in of London, England

    Marriage 1 Eleanor DE HOLAND b: 1392 in Upholland, Lancashire, England Children
    1. Has Children Alice Montague COUNTESS OF SALISBURY b: 1406 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England

    Marriage 2 Alice CHAUCER b: ABT 1405 in of Ewelme, Oxfordshire, England
    • Married: BET 1424 AND 1428 19 20

    Sources:
    1. Title: Elmore, Lorraine Ann "Lori" (Garner), Recipient: J.H. Garner, Author Address: P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803, Author E-mail: delmore@ior.com (her son Darryl)
      Abbrev: Elmore, Lori (Garner)
      Author: Elmore, Lori (Garner)
      Note:
      Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerous other reference works"
      Repository:
        Name: Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore, delmore@ior.com (her son Darryl)
    2. Title: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America, Pages: 182
      Abbrev: Magna Charta Sureties, 4th ed.
      Author: Frederick Lewis Weis
      Publication: Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, MD, 1991? 1979?
      Repository:
        Name: J.H. Garner

      Page: Line 94 p. 106
    3. Title: Neville Database, Url: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=johnneville&id=I00203
      Abbrev: Neville Database
      Author: Ren Neville, Compiler: Ren Neville
      Publication: beschutzer@earthlink.net
      Note:
      Ren sent J.H. Garner the GEDCOM, he is interested in "Neville" as a one-name study
      Page: no parents, no title
    4. Title: The Garner Story, Author E-mail: sg09@swt.edu
      Abbrev: Garner Story
      Author: Stanton Garner
      Publication: The Stress Press, San Marcos, TX, Dec 2000
    5. Title: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America, Pages: 182
      Abbrev: Magna Charta Sureties, 4th ed.
      Author: Frederick Lewis Weis
      Publication: Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, MD, 1991? 1979?
      Repository:
        Name: J.H. Garner

      Page: Line 94 p. 106, under age in 1401
    6. Title: Elmore, Lorraine Ann "Lori" (Garner), Recipient: J.H. Garner, Author Address: P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803, Author E-mail: delmore@ior.com (her son Darryl)
      Abbrev: Elmore, Lori (Garner)
      Author: Elmore, Lori (Garner)
      Note:
      Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerous other reference works"
      Repository:
        Name: Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore, delmore@ior.com (her son Darryl)

      Page: d 1428
    7. Title: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America, Pages: 182
      Abbrev: Magna Charta Sureties, 4th ed.
      Author: Frederick Lewis Weis
      Publication: Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, MD, 1991? 1979?
      Repository:
        Name: J.H. Garner

      Page: Line 94 p. 106, no place
    8. Title: The Garner Story, Author E-mail: sg09@swt.edu
      Abbrev: Garner Story
      Author: Stanton Garner
      Publication: The Stress Press, San Marcos, TX, Dec 2000
      Page: d Orléans, France
    9. Title: Elmore, Lorraine Ann "Lori" (Garner), Recipient: J.H. Garner, Author Address: P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803, Author E-mail: delmore@ior.com (her son Darryl)
      Abbrev: Elmore, Lori (Garner)
      Author: Elmore, Lori (Garner)
      Note:
      Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerous other reference works"
      Repository:
        Name: Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore, delmore@ior.com (her son Darryl)

      Page: No date
    10. Title: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America, Pages: 182
      Abbrev: Magna Charta Sureties, 4th ed.
      Author: Frederick Lewis Weis
      Publication: Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, MD, 1991? 1979?
      Repository:
        Name: J.H. Garner

      Page: Line 94 p. 106 no date
    11. Title: List of the Knights of the Garter, Url: www.heraldica.org/topics/orders/garterlist.htm
      Abbrev: K.G. List
    12. Title: Elmore, Lorraine Ann "Lori" (Garner), Recipient: J.H. Garner, Author Address: P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803, Author E-mail: delmore@ior.com (her son Darryl)
      Abbrev: Elmore, Lori (Garner)
      Author: Elmore, Lori (Garner)
      Note:
      Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerous other reference works"
      Repository:
        Name: Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore, delmore@ior.com (her son Darryl)

      Page: m 1399
    13. Title: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 : The Barons Named and Some of Their Descendants Who Settled in America, Pages: 182
      Abbrev: Magna Charta Sureties, 4th ed.
      Author: Frederick Lewis Weis
      Publication: Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, MD, 1991? 1979?
      Repository:
        Name: J.H. Garner

      Page: Line 94 p. 106, m on or bef given date
    14. Title: Mann Database, Recipient: J.H. Garner, soc.genealogy.medieval, Author E-mail: edlmann@mail2.lcia.com
      Abbrev: Ed Mann
      Author: Ed Mann
      Page: m 1399
    15. Title: Neville Database, Url: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=johnneville&id=I00203
      Abbrev: Neville Database
      Author: Ren Neville, Compiler: Ren Neville
      Publication: beschutzer@earthlink.net
      Note:
      Ren sent J.H. Garner the GEDCOM, he is interested in "Neville" as a one-name study
      Page: no date/place
    16. Title: Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, Pages: 324
      Abbrev: Plantagenet Ancestry
      Author: David Faris
      Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 1996
      Repository:
        Name: J.H. Garner

      Page: p 140 paragraph 8iii, 8iv
    17. Title: Leo van de Pas: Leo's Genealogics Website, Address: Canberra, Australia, Url: http://www.genealogics.org/index.php
      Abbrev: Leo van de Pas
      Author: leovdpas@netspeed.com.au, Compiler: Leo van de Pas
      Note:
      A contributor to soc.genealogy.medieval
    18. Title: Cahiers de Saint Louis
      Abbrev: Cahiers de Saint Louis
      Author: Jacques Dupont, Jacques Saillot
      Publication: Angers and Nantes, 1976-1987
      Page: Cahiers de Saint Louis , Dupont, Jacques and Saillot, Jacques, Reference: 962
    19. Title: The Garner Story, Author E-mail: sg09@swt.edu
      Abbrev: Garner Story
      Author: Stanton Garner
      Publication: The Stress Press, San Marcos, TX, Dec 2000
      Page: no date
    20. Title: Chronological birthyear estimator
      Abbrev: chronological estimator
      Note:
      Chronological age estimator based on child's birthdate minus 20-25 years (for females), minus 30-35 years (for males) or minus a set # of years in those cases where an ancestor's birth date is known & a descendants' birth date is known (i.e. if five generations are known to have elapsed in a 150 year time interval, then the estimator is used for each generation, every 30 years). Also used for societies where children generally did not accede to kingships, etc., ascension date minus 30 years. Also used based on a known spousal birthdate, i.e. -2-4 years for females, +2-4 years for males.
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