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  • ID: I5521
  • Name: John Zachariah Campbell
  • Given Name: John Zachariah
  • Surname: Campbell 1
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: Abt 1755 in Scotland
  • Death: Y
  • _TAG:
  • Reference Number: 1898
  • Residence: 3 Feb 1790 Washington Co., TN
  • Immigration: Kentucky
  • Note: about 1798, as described by Phoebe Noble in the Dickey Dairy entries above. The birth places listed by the children indicate it was about 1793 or later that decade.
  • Residence: 1810 Clay Co., KY
  • Note: next to two Grigsby families who in later years were neighbors of John Roberts. The ages of the children match well enough to the children listed here (31001-21001). Zachariah born before 1765. The other John Campbell match well to the children of the other John Campbell and Polly Couch from NC (52110-12010).
  • Event: Census List 1820 Clay Co., KY
  • Note: Only the other John is listed *John Camel Sr" (141201-10010). Living near James Couch.
  • _UID: BE55255CFD204D8CB747DDC825AF351C529D
  • Change Date: 4 Feb 2016 at 08:18
  • Note:
    (His middle name is based on tradition and circumstantial evidence. It has not been found in any original records. It is in an early document on the family at the Kentucky Historical Society.)
    Our Campbell family settled in Breathitt County, Kentucky about 1793. (near the Perry County/Breathitt County line)

    A Zachariah Campbell was granted land "On the South fork of the South river of Shannandoah" in Shenandoah County, Virginia on 11 Oct. 1779.
    DNA studies on this Campbell family show a much closer match of a decendant of Caleb, thus John his father, to several traced to Scotland than to Ireland. There is also DNA proof that Caleb was not even distantly related to William or John Campbell, the other Campbells on Troublesome Creek, the sons of Patrick Campbell, Jr.
    "Hello, I am reaching out regarding some genealogy work I am doing. My father is Clifton Campbell 1944.E..his family is from Breathitt Kentucky and his line goes up to Lewis Campbell 1799. I recently had his DNA done which aligns greatly with the descendants of Caleb Campbell.... Thank you Erin Campbell-Johnson 310-871-0555" (Entered Feb 2, 2016)
    Caleb did match 12 of 12 markers with three men from NC. Their line may be William-NC&TN, James-VA& NC, Robert of Edinburg, Scotland. John Zachariah could be a child of James or his siblings, Thomas or Moses. Or, of James and Susannah in this linage, or a child of one of there ancestors who arrived at another time.
    1-William Campbell b. 1700
    +Sarah Gay
    |--2-James Campbell b. Abt 1720, Augusta Co., VA, d. 1793, Rockbridge Co., VA
    +Susannah Leak m. Abt 1751, Lunenburg Co. VA
    |--3-Richard Campbell b. 20 March 1755, d. 13 June 1844, Hickman Co., TN
    | +Susannah
    | |--4-James Campbell b. 19 March 1785, NC
    | +Samanatha "Smithie" Smith b. 1773, NC, d. After 1860, White Oak, Franklin Co/, AK
    | |--5-Cyrus Campbell b. Abt 1808
    | |--5-Salathiel Campbell b. 12 July 1810, d. 28 March 1903
    | |--5-Hiram Campbell b. Abt 1813, Perry Co., TN
    | |--5-Louisa Campbell b. Abt 1815, Perry Co., TN
    | |--5-Talitha Campbell b. Abt 1819, Perry Co., TN
    | |--5-James A. Campbell b. 1 February 1821, Perry Co., TN
    | |--5-Isaiah Campbell b. Abt 1825, Perry Co., TN, d. 20 February 1865, Ozark, AKCbD (DNA match)C/bD
    | +Rachel Smith m. October 1789, Rockingham Co., NC
    | |--4-William Campbell b. 11 June 1799, Fairfield Co. SC, d. 8 April 1852, Franklin Co/, AK
    | +Nancy Dornell
    |--3-William Campbell b. 1770-1775, NC CbD(DNA match)C/bD
    |--3-Janes Campbell, Jr. b. Bef 1774, NC

    DNA: James W. Robinson - file for Caleb Campbell and
    For a number of years, beginning in the 1870s, The Rev. John J. Dickey traveled the state of Kentucky, particularly Eastern Kentucky, maintaining diaries which have been preserved, and which include interviews by Rev. Dickey of local residents, particularly the elderly.

    The following interview with Phoebe Noble is in the line of John Zachariah Campbell:

    John J. Dickey Diary, Fleming County, Ky. Recorded in the 1870's and beyond. Reprinted in Kentucky Explorer, Volume 11, No 2 June, 1996, p. 83.

    "My father was Lewis Campbell. His father was John Campbell. He came to Breathitt County from Shenandoah Valley soon after the Nobles came CiD(1798) C/iDto this country. They came first to the mouth of Lost Creek, then moved to the mouth of Lot's Creek. John Campbell then left the country and nothing was ever heard of him. Their children were: Zack, Caleb, Lewis, Patsey (Grigsby), Susan (Roberts), Polly (Miller), Nancy and Sallie. They lived and died here."CbD

    On 3 February 1790, in Washington Co., NC (now Carter Co., TN) "on the South side of the Iron Mountain", Edward Smith sold Zachariah Campbell, for the sum of 25, 100 acres, being the same land deeded to Edward Smith by the State of North Carolina on 7 August 1787. "In the presence of Thos. Whitson, Jeremiah Campbell CiD(Sr. son of Zachariah) C/iD& Joseph Ford". Source: Carter County, Tennessee, Deed Book Vol. A, pp. 77-78. Carter County Court Clerk, Elizabethton, TN. He received more land on 12 September 1779 which was registered 5 December 1797. (This Zachariah. Campbell, b. 1740 d. 1821 in Carter Co. is not ours. His wife is Leah, and Jerimiah, Sr. is too old )
    and .../1156872914

    Two of the children, Patsy Grigsby b. about 1803 (and her husband, John) and Nancy Honeycut (deaf and blind) b. about 1802, are listed in the household with their mother, Nancy, in the 1850 Perry Co. census. (Dist 2 line 116-124)

    There is evidence that the Campbell, Smith, Roberts, Combs and Ponder families all spent time in the border area of North Carolina and Tennessee.

    The 1880 census for the children list the birth place of the parents very differently. Since their father left home before 1820, they may have not known him well enough. I think John's account is more accurate since it does not assume the birth to be in some place where they may have lived.
    Child father born mother born in
    John Jackson Campbell Scotland Wales
    Susannah Campbell Ireland KY
    Lewis Campbell NC SC

    The following interview with James Campbell is in a different Campbell line. It is given here first to clarify that there are two John Campbells and secondly to describe the country in Kentucky when these early pioneers arrived.

    "I was born in Perry County, in Campbell's bend, August 12, 1822. My father was Francis Campbell, he was born on Walkers Creek in North Carolina, a tributary of New River. They could roll a hogshead of tobacco to Charleston North Carolina in a day. He was born May 15, 1800, he died Jan 8, 1893. He was well preserved. My grandfather was John Campbell, he was born in North Carolina also, his wife was a Couch.
    "The Campbells and Couches came from the same part of the state. In 1806 a large number of families in that region thought of immigrating to Kentucky. Not willing to take their families into an unknown country, they selected the two men, Austin Couch and Charles Francis, two choice men, unmarried. They filled their knapsacks, took their flintlock rifles and full of determination to accomplish the mission on which they were sent, they started on foot to explore the new Eldorado. They came though Pound Gap, and striking the headwaters of the Kentucky River, they followed the north fork to Boonesborough, thence to Lexington and returned the same route, reaching home the same season. They reported a land of plenty. They said there was everything to eat but nothing to wear. It was a land flowing with milk and honey. The streams abounded in fish, the woods were full of deer, bear, turkey, buffalo and elk. Filled with the flaming report, my grandfather and his family, his brother William and his family, started the following spring.
    "They were large families, they started for Lexington but stopped at Campbell's bend on the north fork of the Kentucky river, in what is now Perry County. They found four acres of land cleared at that point and concluded to make a crop and remain over a year. My grandfather bought nine horses, his brother ten, they bought their cattle also, some were sick on the way and this was one of the reasons for stopping. When Spring came again his family or some of them were sick and it was two years before they got rid of their chills. When they had gotten well they felt so well and were charmed with the rich soil and luxuriant canebrakes and the abundance of game, they lost the desire to go farther.
    In North Carolina, they had put manure in the furrow to raise corn and then the frost would cut it rare, ripe, a diminutive corn was all they could raise. The great ears of corn that grew on their rich bottoms was sufficient to meet the expectation awakened by the glowing descriptions of Messers, Couch and Francis, they put all they had into clothes.
    "My great grandmother's father was James, he was born in Ireland, there were two brothers, James and William James. I suppose Jesse James is of the same family. She is the daughter of William James, they were rich. The Campbells were Scottish - Irish. Later Couch and Francis, the explorers found a path hacked from Carrs Creek to Grapevine."
    Dickey lists 12 children of John Campbell and (Polly) Couch

    In summary:
    C/uD1. (From Dickey) John Campbell and Mary Couch came in 1806 from NC-TN border area. John Zachariah came about 1798 from Shenandoah Valley, but may have gone to NC first as indicated by children's birth places.
    2. DNA study - The two Camobell lines are not related. John Campbell and Mary Couch line is not related to the Lewis line.
    3. Birth places are often unreliable in these early years. Often they are the people's earliest recollection of where they came from.
    4. Lewis lists his siblings, that don't match John Campbell and Mary Couch's family.
    5. John who married Mary Couch lived to be near 100 years. Thus had not "left the country" as Phoebe Noble reported"

    Marriage 1 Nancy Sherley b: 1762 in Wales
    • Married: 31 Aug 1789 in Shenandoah Co., VA 2
    • Note:
      There is no solid proof that our John Zachariah Campbell is the same John Campbell that married Nancy Sherley. However, all the known facts fit. I have seen one another genealogy that claims this couple in a family in Frederick Co. (W)VA, that also seems creditable, but not certain. There are atleast 2 different Shirley families in the area.
      The best evidence in our favor is the testimony of John's granddaughter, Phoebe Campbell Noble as recorded by Rev. John J. Dickey: "My father was Lewis Campbell. His father was John Campbell. He came to Breathitt County from Shenandoah Valley soon after the Nobles came to this country." (See notes for John Zachariah Campbell.) A Zachariah Campbell received a land grant in 1779 in Shenandoah Co.
      In favor of John Campbell of Fredrick Co.: Nancy Shirley daughter of Walter Shirley, Jr. did marry a John Campbell. He owned land in Shenandoah Co. which he inrerited from his father. However, why would the wedding have occured over 50 miles from the home of this Nancy Shirley?
    • Change Date: 14 Nov 2010
    1. Has No Children Mary Polly Campbell b: Abt 1790 in NC
    2. Has Children Patsy Campbell b: 1793 in KY
    3. Has Children John "Zack" Campbell b: 20 Aug 1795 in Buncombe Co., NC
    4. Has Children Lewis Campbell b: 14 Nov 1799 in Floyd Co., KY
    5. Has Children Susannah Campbell b: 24 Mar 1800 in Haddix, Floyd Co. (Breathitt Co.), KY
    6. Has Children Caleb Campbell b: 1802 in KY
    7. Has No Children Nancy Campbell b: 1805 in KY
    8. Has No Children Sallie Campbell b: Abt 1810

    1. Abbrev: Kentucky Historical Society - Zachariah Campbell Paper
      Title: Kentucky Historical Society - Zachariah Campbell of Campbells Branch, Breathitt County
    2. Abbrev: Marriage Records Shenandoah Co., VA
      Title: Marriage Records Shenandoah Co., VA
      Page: Nancy Sherley married John Campbell, 31 Aug. 1789. James Allen is the bondsman
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