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  • ID: I107013
  • Name: Elizabeth De ARGENTEIN 1 2 3
  • Sex: F
  • Birth: ABT 1312 in Melbourn, Royston, Cambridgeshire, England
  • Death: 1400
  • IDNO: ems-jw
  • Change Date: 12 JAN 2004
  • Note:
    The following information taken from Medieval English Genealogy website at:
    http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/families/arg/argoutl1.shtml

    On John de Argentein and his wife Joan's family:

    Some interesting light is shed on the family's domestic arrangements by a surviving set of accounts for 1317-8 from the manor of Melbourn (Palmer), where they seem to have been living at the time. Weknow from later evidence that Joan's elder daughters, Joan and Elizabeth were married to two brothers, John and William, the sons of Ralph Boteler (or Butler). (The younger daughter, Denise, died without issue.) Evidently they were married extremely young. In fact, the marriages must have been arranged immediatelyafter their status as heiresses was apparent, because in the Melbourn accountsoccurs an 'Aid for marrying the lord's eldest daughter'. The young bridegroomsalso seem to have been living at Melbourn: the accounts also contain expenses for 'little socks', 'shoes' and 'slippers' for John Boteller, and 'linen cloth for the use of John Boteller and his brother'.

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    Other than the reference to Ralph, the father of William, in the abovetext this marriage seems to fit all of the criteria. The Elizabeth who married William of Wem d. 1369 is not the Elizabeth de Holand who was daughter of Robert de Holand and Maud la Zouche because that Elizabeth married Sir Henry FitzRoger in 1340 (AR line 261-35) with no evidence of divorce or early death. The other William (of Warrington d 1380) that Elizabeth de Argentein might have married, is said (AR line 170-30) to have married Elizabeth de Havering.




    Father: John Baron De ARGENTEIN b: ABT 1278 in Wymondley, Hertfordshire, England
    Mother: Joane BRYAN b: ABT 1283 in Throcking, Hertfordshire, England

    Marriage 1 William 3Rd Baron Le BOTELER b: ABT 1316 in Wem, Shropshire & Oversley, Warwickshire, England
    • Married: BEF JUL 1343 1 3
    Children
    1. Has Children Alice BOTELER b: ABT 1343 in Wemme, S., England
    2. Has Children Elizabeth Le BOTELER b: BEF 1345 in Wem, Shropshire & Oversley, Warwickshire, England

    Sources:
    1. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by FrederickLewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Note: ABBR Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
      Page: 77-33
    2. Title: GEDCOM File : emsuggs.ged
      Author: Not Given
      Note: ABBR GEDCOM File : emsuggs.ged
      Note: Not Supplied
      Text: 25 OCT 2003
    3. Title: GEDCOM File : 2746994.ged
      Note: ABBR GEDCOM File : 2746994.ged
      Page: 55
      Text: 3 JAN 2004
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