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  • ID: I01369
  • Name: Robert Fleming TYNES 1 2 3 4
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT. 1750 in prob Caroline Co VA
  • Death: 1829 in East Baton Rouge Parish LA 1
  • Note:
    There is no record (that I know of) proving Robert Fleming Tynes's link to the family of William Tynes Sr and Patience Davis, but there is much circumstantial evidence that he belongs in this family: (1) He lives close to Samuel Tynes and William Tynes Jr, and signs several documents with them; (2) although he lives in South Carolina, he witnesses a deed of gift in Granville County, North Carolina, in 1782, from Abraham Mitchell to his two daughters (the Mitchells were neighbors of William Tynes); (3) William Tynes's daughter Jeriah is said to have married John Jennings, and their first son was named Tyre Jennings; one of Robert Fleming Tynes's grandsons was named Tyra Jennings Tynes; (4) Robert Fleming Tynes was probably named after Robert Fleming, a magistrate and assemblyman of Caroline County, Virginia, which is where William Tynes probably lived at the time of Robert Fleming Tynes's birth.

    According to the Daughters of the American Revolution (_They Came West_, document 6-038-LA, Oushola Chapter NSDAR, Bogalusa, Louisiana, no date, page 51), "Public records in South Carolina show that about 1804 Fleming Tynes assisted Col. Samuel Tynes, who was in a financial crisis." This document, not further identified by the DAR author, is presumably an equity record in Sumter or Kershaw County, South Carolina; it might specify the relationship between Fleming and Samuel.

    He is known in the records mostly as "Fleming Tynes Sr." The full name Robert Fleming Tynes appears only as a signature on the 1776 document, "South Carolina Association for Public Defense" (in the South Carolina Department of Archives and History). His probable brothers, William and Samuel, also signed that declaration, which declared support for the New England war effort against the British. On 26 August 1775, in St Mark's Parish, South Carolina (later Sumter District), he and his brother Samuel enlisted in a "Vallanteer Company of Horse" under the command of an anti-British organization known as the Council of Safety. The only known pay list for this company, dated September 1775, also shows the two brothers. Brother Samuel, however, later changed sides.

    Robert Fleming Tynes is said to have been a member of Francis Marion's brigade during the Revolutionary War. Marion's brigade fought with and captured on several occasions his brother Samuel. See under Samuel for further information on this. I have seen no direct proof of Robert Fleming Tynes's membership in Marion's brigade; this information comes from family stories. The "Vallanteer Company of Horse" to which he belonged was active long before Marion's brigade was formed in 1780, and it is not known what if any role he played in the latter years of the war.

    His wife's name is highly uncertain. For notes on the order of their children, see under his wife.

    In 1804, Fleming Tynes sold land to Thomas Sumter Jr. He then moved from South Carolina to Feliciana Parish, Louisiana, after first (apparently) having stopped for a while in Georgia, where his son Fleming married in 1805, and in Amite County, Mississippi, where he himself married his second wife, Sylvia (Boothe) Dixon in 1814. He obtained land in Feliciana (later East Feliciana) Parish in 1814, according to his sworn deposition in 1820. However, he was still living in Amite County, Mississippi, in 1816, when he signed a petition there requesting a delay in the execution of an order expelling settlers from public lands. Later, he moved to East Baton Rouge Parish (or West Feliciana) due to ill health; his daughter cared for him there until his death. (Margaret Miller)

    On the 1820 census for Feliciana Parish, "Flemming Tynes" appears with one male over 45 (himself), one male and two females aged 16-26, and two males under 10. These people may have been his son Anson, wife and two small grandsons, along with an unmarried daughter.

    In _My Pilgrimage_, Walter Edwin Tynes (1928), his great-grandson, refers to him as "Fleming Tynes, a Revolutionary Patriot, one of the General Francis Marion type and followers, who also came to this new country about the same time, if not in the same company with my grandparents, with a large family and settled in Feliciana Parish, Louisiana. My grandfather was the oldest of his four sons, and several daughters, all of whom reared large families, except two sons."

    He died probably in late 1829. The earliest record in his estate papers in East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana, is dated 28 December 1829; by 5 January 1830 his son-in-law Robert Poole was named provisional administrator of the estate. On the covering folder at the East Feliciana Parish courthouse in Clinton, Louisiana, the date 1827 is written, and this error has reappeared in some secondary sources. It's clear that Fleming was alive on 23 February 1829, when he lent money to John Gerald (see IOU note in the estate papers). (The covering folder also names "Ann Pool Tynes -- Wife", but Ann Poole Tynes was Robert Fleming Tynes's daughter, as the papers make clear.) The papers are on microfilm at the Louisiana Department of Archives and History, Baton Rouge, accession number P1987-86 (East Feliciana Parish Clerk of Court, Probate Court Records), reel 1.51.

    The estate papers name seven heirs of Fleming Tynes: Canzada Trescott, Elizabeth A. Pool (Robert's wife), Anson Tynes, and Mary McKnight in Louisiana; and Martha Pool, Elizabeth Lucas, and the heirs of Minor Tynes in Mississippi. Conspicuous by his absence is Fleming Tynes Jr, or John Fleming Tynes, of Marion County, Mississippi, leading to some doubt as to whether he belongs in this family (see under him for more comments on this). Also missing is Laura Castello, given by one family account as a daughter. In fact no distribution was ever made of the estate because its debts exceeded its value; unsecured creditors received 29 cents on the dollar.

    Although his estate papers are in East Feliciana Parish (as was his property), Robert Fleming Tynes died in East Baton Rouge Parish at the home of his daughter Mary (Tynes) (Ball) McKnight, who filed for costs of $100 against her father's estate, for caring for him in his last illness.

    These notes are copyright (c) 2000-2005 by T. Mark James (tmark@geocities.com). Any commercial use requires prior written consent from the copyright holder.




    Father: William TYNES b: ABT. 1710
    Mother: Patience DAVIS b: ABT. 1712 in prob Caroline Co VA

    Marriage 1 <female> WATKINS b: ABT. 1760
    • Married: ABT. 1778
    Children
    1. Has Children John Fleming TYNES b: 11 Feb 1779 in South Carolina
    2. Has Children Minor TYNES b: 1787 in Claremont Co SC
    3. Has Children Martha TYNES b: ABT. 1789 in South Carolina
    4. Has Children Anson TYNES b: ABT. 1792
    5. Has Children Elizabeth Catherine TYNES b: 1794 in South Carolina
    6. Has Children Ann Eliza TYNES b: ABT. 1795
    7. Has Children Mary Amanda TYNES b: 27 Feb 1796 in Sumter District SC
    8. Has Children Cansada TYNES b: ABT. 1798 in Claremont Co SC
    9. Has Children Laura TYNES b: 1804 in South Carolina

    Marriage 2 Sylvia BOOTHE b: 1782
    • Married: 6 Feb 1814 in Amite Co MS

    Sources:
    1. Title: My Pilgrimage
      Author: Walter Edwin Tynes
      Publication: 1928
      Note: Republished with an Appendix by Frances M. Liptrap and James M. Liptrap in 1993.
      Repository:
      Media: Book
      Page: page 2
    2. Title: 1790 Census, Claremont County, South Carolina
      Repository:
      Media: Census
      Page: page 223
    3. Title: 1800 Census, Claremont County, South Carolina
      Repository:
      Media: Census
      Page: page 587
    4. Title: 1820 Census, Feliciana Parish, Louisiana
      Repository:
      Media: Census
      Page: page 54

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