The Parent / Parant and Allied Families Connection from Canada to Louisiana.

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This site seeks to link Parent / Parant family data, including European, Métis, and African-American branches. Geographically it extends from Québec to Louisiana (covering the New France/Acadian/Canada, Western Voyageur, Post-1759, Spanish Colonial, and U.S. periods). Kudos to Guy Parent, Philip W. Smith, Brenda Parent White, Margo Duplantier Rhinehart, Don Russel, & Jean-Charles Parent. More Québec details can be found at http://parentfrost.netfirms.com and http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=rnelson

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  • ID: I1204
  • Name: Pierre-François Juzan
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1759
  • Note:
    Also of interest is the following regarding sons Charles Juzan and Pierre Juzan from http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/mississippi.html

    "When reading the notes of H. S. Halbert, and the paper on the Creek War written by H.S. Halbert and Ball in the 1890's, it is curious to note that Pierre Juzan, named as a leader by the authors is described in a manner that curiously parallels what is known of the life of Charles Juzan. As a consequence, in various records the son of Charles Juzan, also named Pierre Juzan is sometimes annotated as the son of Pierre Juzan. In fact, it is more than likely, for some unknown reason Charles Juzan and Pierre Juzan as referenced are the same person. Juzan was a trader who lived among the Choctaw, son of Pierre François Juzan, known as "Don Pedro", the only child of Pierre Gabrielle Juzan who was killed by the Chickasaws in 1735-1736, and Margaret Trudeau, who died within days after the birth. The mother of Charles Juzan is not known. It is commonly accepted that he is the son of Don Pedro Juzan and an unknown Choctaw woman, some say sister to a chief, others say perhaps a Miss Rochon. Other family files, at both the LDS and Oklahoma Historical Society list the name as Shanke, but descendants of Eliza Ann Flack, daughter of Charles Juzan states it was her mother that was the daughter of Shanke, further complicating the issue.

    "Some researchers, because he had a known relationship with the legitimate family of Don Pedro believe he may have been the son of Don Pedro and his wife Catherine Parant. It is felt, Don Pedro had a son, named Pierre, of which little is known, some also think based more than likely on accounts of the Creek war, that this son was a full brother to Charles. It cannot be clear at this point to verify the issue, however, the facts of the residences of Pierre Juzan, time of his death, and the migration of his children as given by H. S. Halbert exactly mirror what is known of Charles Juzan, and would suggest that the man he speaks of is in fact Charles. The question to be asked may be, not that two men existed, but did Charles Juzan in fact go by the name of Charles, while his actual name was Pierre. The name of John Charles Juzan has also been seen used by current researchers, yet, all records that have been found refer to him only as Charles.

    'As to the issue of his being part Choctaw, it is known that he married a sister and daughter of Oklahoma (see under the section on his wives and children), was an accomplished trader, spoke English, French, Spanish and Choctaw, had several residences, among them the ones in Coosha and Chunky towns, and that he attended treaty negotiations and signed at least one treaty, more than likely three. He did benefit from the land "gifts" under the supplement of the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek, choosing his reservation in what is now Washington County, Alabama. While some of the white men who married into the nation signed the treaties as interpreters, Juzan was never acknowledged in this role, and most of the men, if not all, to the knowledge of the author, were at least part Choctaw, it is more than likely the belief that he was part Choctaw is correct."

    NOTE: There is quite a bit more discussion on the Juzan line at this interesting website....

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    "I read you note on Catherine Parent's son and you mention the problem with the true name of Charles versus Pierre : 'The name of John Charles Juzan has also been seen used by current researchers, yet, all records that have been found refer to him only as Charles. ' Well, this is exactly what I live; my full name if Jean-Charles but when writing or talking to anglophones I used only Charles because of the confusion with Jean being also a woman's name in English and the difficulty most anglophones have in pronouncing French Jean . They make it sound like jeeen. Using only Charles simplifies things for all.
    Maybe John Charles Juzan thought the same!" Jean-Charles Parent, charl765@videotron.ca
    Also of interest is the following regarding sons Charles Juzan and Pierre Juzan from http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/mississippi.html

    "When reading the notes of H. S. Halbert, and the paper on the Creek War written by H.S. Halbert and Ball in the 1890's, it is curious to note that Pierre Juzan, named as a leader by the authors is described in a manner that curiously parallels what is known of the life of Charles Juzan. As a consequence, in various records the son of Charles Juzan, also named Pierre Juzan is sometimes annotated as the son of Pierre Juzan. In fact, it is more than likely, for some unknown reason Charles Juzan and Pierre Juzan as referenced are the same person. Juzan was a trader who lived among the Choctaw, son of Pierre François Juzan, known as "Don Pedro", the only child of Pierre Gabrielle Juzan who was killed by the Chickasaws in 1735-1736, and Margaret Trudeau, who died within days after the birth. The mother of Charles Juzan is not known. It is commonly accepted that he is the son of Don Pedro Juzan and an unknown Choctaw woman, some say sister to a chief, others say perhaps a Miss Rochon. Other family files, at both the LDS and Oklahoma Historical Society list the name as Shanke, but descendants of Eliza Ann Flack, daughter of Charles Juzan states it was her mother that was the daughter of Shanke, further complicating the issue.

    "Some researchers, because he had a known relationship with the legitimate family of Don Pedro believe he may have been the son of Don Pedro and his wife Catherine Parant. It is felt, Don Pedro had a son, named Pierre, of which little is known, some also think based more than likely on accounts of the Creek war, that this son was a full brother to Charles. It cannot be clear at this point to verify the issue, however, the facts of the residences of Pierre Juzan, time of his death, and the migration of his children as given by H. S. Halbert exactly mirror what is known of Charles Juzan, and would suggest that the man he speaks of is in fact Charles. The question to be asked may be, not that two men existed, but did Charles Juzan in fact go by the name of Charles, while his actual name was Pierre. The name of John Charles Juzan has also been seen used by current researchers, yet, all records that have been found refer to him only as Charles.

    'As to the issue of his being part Choctaw, it is known that he married a sister and daughter of Oklahoma (see under the section on his wives and children), was an accomplished trader, spoke English, French, Spanish and Choctaw, had several residences, among them the ones in Coosha and Chunky towns, and that he attended treaty negotiations and signed at least one treaty, more than likely three. He did benefit from the land "gifts" under the supplement of the Treaty of Dancing Rabbit Creek, choosing his reservation in what is now Washington County, Alabama. While some of the white men who married into the nation signed the treaties as interpreters, Juzan was never acknowledged in this role, and most of the men, if not all, to the knowledge of the author, were at least part Choctaw, it is more than likely the belief that he was part Choctaw is correct."

    NOTE: There is quite a bit more discussion on the Juzan line at this interesting website....

    ------------

    "I read you note on Catherine Parent's son and you mention the problem with the true name of Charles versus Pierre : 'The name of John Charles Juzan has also been seen used by current researchers, yet, all records that have been found refer to him only as Charles. ' Well, this is exactly what I live; my full name if Jean-Charles but when writing or talking to anglophones I used only Charles because of the confusion with Jean being also a woman's name in English and the difficulty most anglophones have in pronouncing French Jean . They make it sound like jeeen. Using only Charles simplifies things for all.
    Maybe John Charles Juzan thought the same!" Jean-Charles Parent, charl765@videotron.ca




    Father: Jean Pierre Gabriel François Juzan b: 20 MAR 1735/36 in Fort Condé, Mobile, Mobile County, Alabama (French Louisiana)
    Mother: Catherine Parent b: ABT 1735 in French Louisiana (Mobile, Alabama)

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