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  • ID: I44439
  • Name: Thomas Baron De CAMOYS Kg, Sir
  • Surname: Camoys
  • Given Name: Thomas Baron De
  • Suffix: Kg, Sir
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1349 in Trotton, Sussex, England
  • Death: 28 Mar 1421 in Bekerton, Sussex, England
  • _UID: E0B3C1EE0749D811A0D8AB7E9CF2065303A6
  • Note: Thomas, Lord de Camoys: Baron by writ and also by tenure of Bekerton Manor, Knight of the Gar ter and a Privy Counciller. Succeeded on his father's death to Bekerton and Stowe bedon Manor s and in 1372 inherited by will the estates of his uncle Lord Thomas (X) de Camoys, includin g the Manors of Trotton, Elnestede, Broadwater, Alkesbourne, Bercompe, Beningden and other la nds in Sussex, Lasham in Hants, Stukeley Magna in Hants, and Tansore, Northants - the latte r subject however to the dower of his aunt Lady Margaret de Camoys. By the will of his cousi n William, Lord Latimer, 10th July 1381 the Manor and advowson of Wotton, Surrey, which as al ready seen formerly belonged to his ancestors, was left to him and his heirs. Also on the dea th of Lord Latimer he inherited divers messuages and lands in Calais held of the Crown "per b aroniam", which Edward III in 1376 had granted to Lord Latimer in special tail male with rema inder to Thomas, Lord de Camoys in tail male, remainder to the Crown. He appears to have hel d the Manor and advowson of Wiseley, Surrey, which he let to Isabel, daughter and heiress o f Sir Robert Fitz Pain and widow of Richard de Poynynges. In 1395 and 1399 he appears as hold ing one Knight's fee in Tansore of the Earl of Stafford. In 1401 Richard de Aula and his parc enors held of him six parts of half a Knight's fee in Buttort or Butter's Hall, Thompson, Nor folk. In 1408 he was seised of the Manor of Heschite with its members and of other lands, etc ., known as Haterlingland, Sussex, by gift and feoffment of William Gueham. 1406 and again i n 1410 and 1411 presented to Itchingfield, Sussex. In a Roll of a Subsidy levied in 1411-12 u nder Sussex occurs the following,"Thomas Camoys has Manors, lands etc. worth yearly beyond re prises 100. 6. 8d., viz - Manor of Tratton 20. Manor of Ellistede 8. Dedelyng 6., lands e tc in Fenyng 6. lands etc. in Bercamp 5. lands etc in Benyngden 3.6.8. lands in Alkisbourn e 2. a Manor in Bradwater 45. lands etc late Wm Grene's in Gorynge 5. etc."As will be show n he obtained various lands in Oxfordshire by his first marriage and with his second wife cer tain Manors in Yorkshire held for her life only. Possibly Honyden Manor, Bedfordshire, of whi ch he also seised, he also obtained by his second marriage. In 1374 he obtained a license t o hold a weekly market in Broadwater on Saturdays, which in 1384-5 he had license to alter t o Mondays; 1388 obtained a charter for a weekly fair in Broadwater on the eve, day and morro w of the Feast of St. Luke. In 1382 and 1383 he presented to the Church of Wotton. 1379 settl ed Bekerton Manor upon Robert Braybrook, Bishop of London and other trustees and in 1386 sett led upon the same all the lands and tenements in Tansore which Margery relict of Sir Thomas d e Camoys (his late uncle) held in dower as part of her late husband's inheritance; further i n 1390 conveyed to the same the Manor of Wotton. Summoned to Parliament as a Peer of the Real m from 7 Richard II (1384) to 8 Henry V (1421) and in 1384 on being elected a Knight of the s hire was discharged from serving by reason of his being a Banneret. 15th July and again 10t h November 1389 received a Commission of the Peace for Sussex, as also on 28th June 1390, wit h a Commission of oyer and terminer, and again on 24th December of that year; received furthe r Commissions of the Peace for Sussex on 28th November 1399 and 3rd February 1400, and for Ha mpshire on 16th May 1401: also on 18th December 1399 a Commission of Array for Sussex and Han ts and on 23rd January 1400 a similar Commission for Surrey. "Le Sire de Cammoys" appears i n 1401, 1403, 1405, and 1415 as a Member of the Privey Council and in September 1414 receive d the high distinction of the Order of the Garder, filling the stall rendered vacant by the d eath of William, Lord Roos on the first of that month. In 1377 served with the fleet at sea i n the retinue of William, Lord Latimer and in 1379 was in the war with France. 30th July 138 0 a commission was issued to the sheriffs and other officials to arrest John Marscall of What elee who having been retained by Thomas Cammoys to go with him beyond the seas on the King' s service in company with William, Lord Latymer, had absconded with divers sums of the King' s money which he had received from said Thomas Cammoys.On 9th July 1381 Lord de Camoys was co mmissioned with others in Surrey and Sussex to forbid unlawful assemblies and to resist and p unish the insurgents, and on 1th October following further commissioned to punish those insur gents who had come out of Kent into Sussex, being on 14th December next ordered to put them d own with armed force if necessary. In 1386 he was again in the wars with France. The next yea r Sir William Berdewell covenanted to serve under him in the expedition to sea under the comm and of Lord Arundel, Admiral of England, for four months with two esquires sufficiently arme d and three archers, each man at arms to have one servant to carry his bayonets, Sir Willia m to find their wages and to have for his own service 18 marks and for his archers 20 and "Bo uche de Court" for all his retinue, all to be ready at Southampton the 4th May following an d if any great chieftain was taken during the war by Sir William or his retinue they were t o receive sufficiently for him. On 3rd November 1399 Thomas de Camoys and his heirs were gran ted the bailiwick of the forestership of Assholte and Wolmere, Hants, the same as his grandfa ther Ralph de Camoys had in his demesne as of fee in the time of Edward II. In this year he w as also granted for life the custody of the Castle, forest and warren of Porchester, which gr ant was on 3rd November of that year enlarged to him for life and to his son Richard, the off ice being described as the Constableship of the Castle and town of Prochestre, Hants, at a sa lary of 12d per day with payments for a porter and his groom an artiller and a watchman, who m they must keep therein for safety.On 1st June 1400 Thomas Camoys, Chivaler, and others wer e commissioned to enquire as to all trespasses done to tenants of Henry, Prince of Wales in O ld and New Shoreham, Sussex. Amongst the Acts of the Privy Council in 1400 there is a minut e of 9th February that the Sire de Camoys, amongst others, is granted "de trov a ses coustage s une nief arraie de XX homes d armes et XL archs et suffissantment estuffe de marims:" and i n a minute dated February 1402 the Sire de Camoys is mentioned as one of those ordered by th e great Council to see the assignment and payment of the "subsidees, custumes dismes et quinz ismes" granted to the King, and who therefore are to assemble in the Chamber on 19th instant . Amongst letters from the King dated 26th October 1402 requesting a benevolence, that direct ed to counties Hants and Wilts is addressed to Lord de Cammoys and two others. On 25th June 1 403 he was directed to convoy safely the Lady Queen Joan from Brittany to England, for whic h service he was to receive 100; conveyed also with certain ships of war, Henry IV escapin g from the pestilence raging in London, from Queenborough in the Isle of Sheppey to Leigh i n Essex, when pirates who followed them captured four of their store ships and the King onl y escaped by reason of the swiftness of his ship. For this misadventure Lord de Camoys was ac cused of being in correspondence with the enemy and plotting to betray the King into their ha nds and was therefore tried, but acquitted. On 12th November 1404 Richard, Bishop of Bangor , Thomas de Camoys, Sir Richard Aston, Lieutenant of Calais and seven others were appointed t o treat in Picardy with the Ambassadors of Margaret, Duchess of Burgundy and Countess of Flan ders, as also with the Ambassadors of the King of France. 13th May 1415 appointed with Thoma s Montague, Earl of Salisbury, and Thomas, Lord West to array and muster all persons, "both n oblers and archers" in the counties of Southampton, Dorset and Wilts to serve the King agains t the French and Genoese. Commanded the left wing of the army at the battle of Agincourt, 24t h October 1415: for an account of his retinue etc. in this battle see appendix. In April of t he year following the Constable and Marshal of England, the Earl of Oxford, the Lords de Camo ys and de Powys and Monsieur William Bourghcher were ordered to station themselves at Rochest er to receive the Emperor Sigismund on his progress from Dover to London. The same year Lor d de Camoys served the King in France with 2 Knights 27 men at arms and 60 archers: the yea r following at the "Three Mynners," Southampton with Richard Maudyt, serjeant at arms, he too k the muster of men serving under the Earl of Huntingdon, the Earl Marshal, and others in th e expedition which sailed for France on 23rd July. Died Thursday, 28th March 1421 and was bur ied in the Church of Trotton, Sussex; this Church is a large, rich and very handsome structur e and is said to have formerly had a chantrey for the De Camoys family: there is a table tom b on the left side of the alter and one on the right, also several other ancient and curiou s tombs, the inscriptions all obliterated but presumed to have been the graves of members o f the Family. In the centre of the chancel is the table tomb of Thomas, Lord Camoys and his s econd wife, which, standing about 3 feet from the ground, supports on a slab of Petworth marb le measuring 9.5 feet by 4.5 feet a brass profusely decorated displaying the arms of Camoys i mpaling those of Mortimer and delineating Lord Camoys armed cap a pie, his second wife an d a son who died young and bearing the inscription"crate p' aiab's Thome Camoys*Elizabeth's e jus Consortis, qui quondz, erat ds de Camoys baro*prudes Consul Regis*Regne Anglie' ac Stren nuus Miles de Gartero su fie comendavit X to XXVII die mens' Marcii Ao Dm Md ccccxxi quor ' a'iab'z, p'piciet ds. A-m."By inquisitions post mortem in 1422 and subsequently, he was fo und to have died seised of the following lands, his grandson Hugh being his heir, - Stowbedo n Manor, Norfolk, held in chief from the King by military service: in Hants one messuage an d garden, 50 acres arable and 40 acres wood with its pertinents in Lasham, held from the Kin g in chief by service of an annual payment to the Castle of Winchester and service to the hun dred of Odiham, also lands in Odiham: in Hunts a certain Manor in Stukeley Magna known as Cam oys Manor with its pertinents, held from the King in Chief by service unknown: in Northants o ne virgate of land in Tannesore called the demesne lands and a certain rent, also a separat e fishery in the Neen from "Clotherstoke Flowdegates to a certain willow named Answelogh, sta nding at the end of Perehow mill pond", all held as of the Honor of Gloucester: in Sussex Bra dewatre Manor etc. with the advowson of its church and of the chapel there, Akkesbourne Manor , Bercompe Manor, Bynynen Manor and the advowson of Rousparre and of Echyngham churches (44 ) all held of the Honor of Brembre and being a portion of the Honor of Lewes, Tratton alias T radyngton Manor and advowson held as of the Manor of Codre, Elnestede Manor as of the Manor o f Chudeham, Tyning Manor as of the Manor of Dereford, Dudeling Manor and Demford Manor: in Ox fordshire 1 messuage and 2 carucates of land in Combe Cheleworth Magna and Parva and a fisher y in the Thame, together held in chief by the service of half a Knight's fee, also Whatele Ma nor, which was known as Camoys Manor, a messuage and lands in Lawrence baldon held as of th e Honor of St. Walery, a messuage etc., in Hedington held as of Hedington Manor, and Milton M agna Manor, known as Camoys Manor (45): in Bedfordshire, Honyden Manor, appertaining to the C ourt of Eton.It may be mentioned here that parts of the parishes of Dicheling, Barcompe and N ewick, in Sussex, which as related above were the property of Lord de Camoys, were included u nder the title of "Camois Manor Court," the lord of which was, and still is, a free suitor i n the Court Baron of Lewes; also that Trotton, which undoubtedly was the residence of the Lor ds de Camoys, is still known as "Camois Court."Married first, Elizabeth, daughter and heires s of William de Louches who bore "argent, 2 bars gules, in chief a lion passant of the second "; by this marriage Lord de Camoys acquired the Manor of Ingescourt in Milton Magna, held b y Knight service of the Bishop of Lincoln, together with the other estates in Oxfordshire alr eady mentioned. Second, Elizabeth, daughter of Edmund Mortimer, Earl of March who bore "barr y of six, or and azure, on a chief of the first 2 palletts between 2 base esquierres of the s econd, over all an inescutcheon argent", by his wife Philippa, daughter and heiress of Lione l Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence. She was the widow of the celebrated Henry Percy, K.G., surna med "Hotspur," who was slain in 1403; she was born at Usk 12th February 1371 and dying in 141 8 was buried at Trotton as previously mentioned. Her dower as widow of Henry Percy consiste d of the Manors of Tadcaster, Gristwaith, Austenby and Thorstanby, Yorks, all held in chief ; these Manors reverted after her death to Henry, Earl of Northumberland. It is probable tha t she held in her own right Nonyden Manor, Bedfordshire. 1 2 3
  • Change Date: 13 Feb 2009 at 15:41:08



    Father: John Baron De CAMOYS Sir b: ABT 1310 in Trotton, Sussex, England
    Mother: Margaret FOLIOT b: BEF 1313 in Gressenhall, Mitford, Norfolk, England

    Marriage 1 Elizabeth LOUCHES b: ABT 1350 in Milton, Oxfordshire, England
    • Married: ABT 1366
    Children
    1. Has Children Maud CAMOYS b: ABT 1367 in Trotton,Sussex,England
    2. Has No Children Richard CAMOYS b: ABT 1382 in Trotton, Sussex, England

    Marriage 2 Elizabeth De MORTIMER b: 12 Feb 1370/1371 in Monmouthshire, Wales
    • Married: AFT 1403 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife 2
    Children
    1. Has Children Alice Philippa CAMOYS b: ABT 1404 in Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales

    Sources:
    1. Title: Mac 14Febxx.FTW
    2. Title: The Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5t h Edition, 1999
      Page: 36-10
    3. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, addition s by Walter Lee Shippard Jr.
      Page: 261a-38
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