ID: I41409
Name: CARR_Pirates
Sex: M
Reference Number: 41409
Note: See James Carr b 1680 and his sister Mary Carr (by a previous mother) a nd her husband, Thomas Paine. ____________________________ Area History: Chapters 4 - 5, Vol II - Watson's Annals of Philadelphia A nd Pennsylvania, 1857
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ANNALS
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PHILADELPHIA AND PENNSYLVANIA,
VOL. II ______________________________________________
Chapter 4. THE PIRATES
"A bucaniering race ----- The dregs and feculence of every land."
The story of the pirates had been, in early times, one of deep interest and stirring wonder to our forefathers; so much so, that the echo of their recitals, far as we have been long since removed from their fears, have no t yet ceased to vibrate upon our ears. Who among us of goodly years but has heard something of the names and piracies of Kid and Blackbeard ! They ha ve indeed much of the mist of antiquity about them; for none remember the original tales truly, and all have ceased to read, for none knows where to find the book of "the History of the Pirates", as published by William Bradford, in New York, in 1724. That book I have never been able to procure, although I have some conception of it and its terrifying pictures , as once seen and read by my mother when a child. It had every character o f the marvellous surely, when it contained notices of the lives of two femal e pirates -- even of Mary Reed and Anne Bonny ! Dr. Franklin tells us th at he made and published a sailors' song on the capture of Blackbeard -- done wh en he was yet a boy. Can any one bring it again to light ? Many would li ke to see it.
CAPTAIN KID.
Captain Kid (Robert) used to be the earliest name of terror along our coast, although I believe he never committed any excesses near our borders , or on our vessels; but partisans in his name were often named and dreaded. What countryman he was does not appear, but his residence appears to have been in New York before his piracies were known, where he had a wife and child. He most probably had been a successful privateersman, possessing then the friendship of Governor Fletcher, Mr. Nicolls, and Col. Robert Livingston; the latter of whom recommended him to the crown "as a bold and honest man to suppress the prevailing piracies in the American seas". It appears on record at New York, as early as March 1691, that Captain Kid th en reclaimed a pressed seaman; and on the 17th of August of the same year, he is recorded as bringing in his prize and paying the king his tenth, and th e governor his fifteenth, of course showing he was once every way a legalize d man among them. His being called "bold" probably arose from numerous acts of successful daring, which made his name renowned while on the side of th e law, and equally a subject of terror when openly acknowledged a pirate. I t appears from a pamphlet of facts in the case, set forth by the friends of the Earl of Bellermont, about the year 1702, that Col. Robert Livingston a nd Captain Kid being both in London in 1694, the former recommended him to th e crown officers, and also became his security, by whom he received comma nd of the Adventure galley, and sailed from Plymouth in February 1695. He came out direct to New York, thence went to Madeira, Madagascar, and the Red se a. In the latter he began his piracies, capturing several vessels, and finall y the Quedah Merchant, of 400 tons; with her he came back to the West Indies , where leaving her in charge of one Bolton, he came in a sloop* to Long Island sound, and made many deposits on shore. [ *The word sloop often meant a war vessel without reference to the manner of her rigging.] While in the sound he sent one Emmet to the Earl of Bellermont, then transferred from the government at New York to that at Boston, to negotiate terms of reconciliation. The Governor assured him of fair treatment, in such terms of equivocacy as ensnared him so far that he landed the first of June 1699 -- was then arrested and sent home to England for trial. Finally, he was executed at Execution Dock, the 23d of March 1701, and so gave rise to the once notable "song of Captain Kid". Col. Livingston again attempted to befriend him after his arrest at Boston, by offering some suggestions for his relief. He was one-fifth owner of his original enterprise, in concert with some noblemen in England. The whole was an unofficial adventure of crown officers, possessing, however, the sanction, though not the commissi on of the king. The expedition itself being thus of an anomalous character, excited considerable political inquiry in England, and finally became, aft er Kid's death, the subject of parliamentary investigation. The particulars more at large have been preserved by me in my MS. book of Historical Collections, given to the Historical Society of Pennsylvania. Smith's History of New York has some few facts concerning him -- see 4to. edition, p.91. A writer at Albany, in modern times, says they had the tradition th at Kid once visited Coeymans and Albany; and at a place two miles from the latter, it was said he deposited money and treasure in the earth. Two families, now of wealth and respectability of New York, have been named to me as original settlers at Oyster Bay on Long Island, who became suddenly rich by their connexion with Kid's piracies. The story was, that they deserted from his sloop above mentioned, in the sound, after seeing the treasure deposited, and when the chief was arrested, and the expedition destroyed, they profited by the exclusive gain. Many incidental facts of that day show that the pirates often had their friends and accomplices on shore, acting not unlike the armed vessels off our coasts in the time of the French revolution, all of whom seemed to hav e accurate knowledge of fit prizes to sail, or expected to arrive. The very circumstance of Kid's having a family in New York inferred his family alliances, and perhaps, if we now knew all things, we might see, even now, some of his wealthy descendants. Tradition, about and along Long Island sound says, that the Sachem's hea d and the Thimble islands were the rendezvous of Capt. Kid -- one of these rocky islands in the sound is called "Kid's island". He deposited on Gardiner's island the same treasure which was given up to Gov. Bellermont, and of which there is a schedule in the hands of the Gardiner family at th is day. It is said that a pot of $1800 was ploughed up two or three years ag o in a corn field at Martha's Vineyard, which is supposed to have been Kid's money. Kid has been sometimes called William Kid, and has been so named i n that schedule. At Kid's island is a cave, where it is said the pirates us ed to hide and sleep -- inside of it is cut the letters R. K., supposed to stand for Robert Kid -- a hole in the rocky floor, chiselled out, is calle d their punch bowl for carousal. Another little island is called "Money island" and has been much dug for its treasure. Gov. Fletcher has had the reputation of countenancing the pirates, and Nicholls, one of his council, has been handed down by tradition as their a gent. An old account, London edition, of the Sea Rovers, from which I have see n some reprint, says of New York, about the year 1695, that "the easy access to the harbour, and the number of hiding places about its waters, together with the laxity of the newly organized government, made it a great rendezvous for pirates, where they might dispose of their booty and concer t new schemes of depredation. There they sold at small prices their rich luxuries and spoils of the Spanish provinces. To some at least they were welcome visiters, and for that reason, crews of these freebooters might be seen swaggering about town in open day. In time it became matter of scandal, and a public pest, and the government at home was urgently applie d to [of course by the best part of the community] to suppress this evil". It was of course a matter understood, that to make spoliations on Spanis h provinces was so much reprisal for wrongs which Hollanders had suffered, under the cruel Duke of Alva, in their fatherland. In 1699, Isaac Norris, Sen. writes, saying "We have four men in prison, taken up as pirates, supposed to be Kid's men. Shelly, of New York has brought to these parts some scores of them, and there is a sharp look o ut to take them. We have various reports of their riches, and money hid between this and the capes. There were landed about twenty men, as we understand, at each cape, and several are gone to York. A sloop has been seen cruisin g off the capes for a considerable time, but has not meddled with any vessel as yet, though she has spoken with several". The above quoted letter, in the Logan MS. collection, goes to countenanc e the prevalent idea of hidden money. The time concurs with the period Captain Kid was known to have returned to the West Indies. It may have be en the very sloop in which Kid himself was seeking means of conveying home hi s treasure, and with which he finally went into Long Island sound to endeavo ur to make his peace. Four of the men, landed at Lewistown, were apprehended and taken to Philadelphia; I saw the bill of their expense,* but heard no more of them, save that I saw that Colonel Quarry, at Philadelphia, was reproached by William Penn for permitting the bailing of the pirates; some were also bailed at Burlington -- Vide Penn's letter of 1701. [* Wessell Alricks, of Newr county, (New Castle) was paid £9, for bringing pirates in 1700, to Philadelphia, from the Whore-kills -- Logan MSS.] One man of Jersey was arrested by James Logan, on his own declaration that he had so hid money on Cape May, but the case was discharged by Logan himself, as something like a hoax. William Clark, the collector of customs "down the Delaware" at Lewistown I presume, had his house robbed by pirates, as he alleged. A letter from Jonathon Dickinson, then at Port Royal, dated the 5th of 4mo. 1699, to his wife then in Philadelphia, says "Many pirates are and ha ve been upon the coast. About two days since came news of Captain Kid's bein g upon our coast, being come from the East Indies with a great booty, but wants provisions. He is in a ship which he took from the natives of those parts, having thirty odd guns, with twenty-five white men and thirty negroes. There is gone hence, two days since, Ephraim Pilkerton, in a slo op well manned, to go and take him". Probably the reason of so few men on board the "Quedah" was, that Kid himself was absent in the sloop before mentioned. An original letter, which I have seen, from John Askew in London, dated 22d of 3 mo. 1701, to Jonathan Dickinson, contains a "postscriptum" intimating the finale of this bold sea rover -- saying, "Captain Kid and some other pirates are to execute tomorrow at execution Dock, in Wapping; Kid, to be gibbetted at Tillberry Fort, Gravesend." As a sequel to the whole, came out the ballad song of Captain Kid -- a great rarity in the present day, although the pensive tones are still know n to some, and have been lately revived in much bad taste among the eccentri c camp-meeting hymns -- singing "Farewell, ye blooming youth" &c. For the u se of the curious, both the facts and the style of this pirate song are here preserved, from the recollections of an ancient person, to wit :
1. My name was Captain Kid, When I sail'd, when I sail'd, My name is Captain Kid, And so wickedly I did, God's laws I did forbid When I sail'd, when I sail'd
2. My name, &c. I roam'd from sound to sound, And many a ship I found, And them I sunk or burn'd When I sail'd, when I sail'd.
3. My name, &c. I murdered William Moore, And laid him in his gore, Not many leagues from shore, When I sail'd, when I sail'd.
4. My name, &c. Farewell to young and old, All jolly seamen bold; You're welcome to my gold, For I must die, I must die.
5. My name is, &c. Farewell to Lunnon town, The pretty girls all round ; No pardon can be found, And I must die, I must die.
6. My name, &c. Farewell, for I must die Then to eternity, In hideous misery, I must lie, I must lie.
Source: Watson's Annals of Philadelphia And Pennsylvania, Vol II, Chapt er 4 (1857), excerpt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/philadelphia/areahistory/watson020 8.txt (Retrieved 8 Apr 2003] Contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by EVC. USGENWEB NOTICE: Printing this file by non-commercial individuals and libr aries is encouraged, as long as all notices and submitter information is i ncluded. Any other use, including copying files to other sites requires pe rmission from the submitters PRIOR to uploading to any other sites. We enc ourage links to the state and county table of contents. _____________________________________________ Capt. William Kidd, Pirate
10 September 1696 Articles of agreement between Capt. William Kidd, commander of the good sh ip Adventure, and John Walker, Quartermaster. Subscribed and agre ed to by the ship's company:
Starboard Watch Robert Bradinham George Bollen Alexander Milberry Wm. Beck John Torksey George Sinkler John Wier Samuel Bradley Peter Hammond Archibald B. Bohanan William Skines Edward Colliness Edward Roberts Peter P. Rouse Ellis Strong Yoer oovrall Thomas Hobson John Pears Joseph Budden William Rowls Jan Spons John Jonson Hendrick Albert John Browne Cornelius Orvyn John Marten Nicholas Jennings Andries Jeaniszen Wm. Wellman Charles Bathurst John Davis Thomas Fletcher Edward Buckmaster William Hunt Harculis Bredsteed Jan de Roodt John West John FLing Daniel Mokoricke Henry Sanders Edward Graham Aldris Saerdenbreech George Tarpole John Burton Ebenezar Miller James Alger William Percy Nicholas Tredgidgen Phillip Conninghame James Carr Robert Hunt John Hunt, Jr. William Whitley William Arnett Neschen Isaac Ambros John Hunt, Sr. William Weakum Jacob Conklin Benjamin Franks Isaac Dernes Samuel Aires John de Mart Simon de Woolf John Parerick, negro John Roberts Govert Baners
Larboard Watch Henry Meade John Warker (Quartermaster) Henry Olive Wm. Moore Alex. Gordon John Finely Joseph Palmer John Smith Barnet Higgins William Bowyer William Turner Walter King Edward Spooner Robert Smithers Thomas Purdeg John Kemble Hugh Washington Robert Ruderford Richd. Basnet Jacob Cornelijs Morgan Harriss Peter Lee Michael Calloway Ery Geyselar John Fletcher Clexfflders (sic) Humphry Clay Jacob Horran John Watson Henry Bainbridge Nicholas Tuder Harman Buger Bernard Looman Hendrickus Cregier Peter de Roy James Betles Henry Pieterson Casper Spreall David Carsson Noah East James How David Mullings Samuel Taylor John Collings Henry Evertse Joseph Hill Richd. Willdey, Sr. Wm. Willdey, Jr. Tho. Wright Peter Smith Gabriel Loffe Alex. Mumford William Holden Patrick Dinmer Wm. Bowyer, Sr. Peter Fewlo Robert Clem Mich. Evens Andrew How English Smith Aba. Coucher Andrew Calwell
11 April 1700 A list of the pirates taken to England in H.M.S. Advice from New Englan
Associates and Accomplices of William Kidd Edward Davis James Kelley alias Gillam Gabriel Loffe Samuel Arris Hugh Parratt Robt. Lamley Wm. Jenkins Richd. Barleycorn Jos. Palmer
Associates and Accomplices of Joseph Bradish Tee Withered Jno. Lloyd Thomas Davis Robt. Knox Thomas Dane Cornelius Larkin Thomas Read Aylmer Clarke Jno. Westby Robt. Amsden Robt. Mason Jno. Pierve Andw. Martin Thomas Simpson Rowland Martin Willm. Griffin James Vennen Edwd. Hamm Jno. Parrat Thomas Edgehill Thomas Hewes
Headlam, Cecil, ed., Calender of State Papers, Colonial Series (Volume 18 ), America and West Indies, 1700, Preserved in the Public Record Office (V aduz: Kraus Reprint Ltd., 1964) First Published London: HMSO, 1910. pp. 16 2, 199-200.
More information about Capt. Kidd and pirates can be found in the books: Captain Kidd and the War Against the Pirates and: The Pirates of the New England Coast, 1630-1730 and: A General History of the Robberies and Murders of the Most Notorious Pirat es Source: Genealogy Quest (Retrieved 8 Apr 2003] http://www.genealogy-quest.com/collections/kidd.html _____________________________________________ Subject: No Subject Date: 10:37 AM From: DaveBetsiMcKay@aol.com To: PatNoble@aol.com
Thank you so much! That's fantastic! I've often felt Bavarian and never Rh ode Island-ian ! You said you wanted a birthdate for James Carr---James Carr born 1680, s on of the RI Carr, Caleb---- from some notes I kept on MicWord. At moment I can't find website address es but know they turned up under Google search "Carr Kidd," search suggest ed by book "Pirate Hunters" suggested by 1930's movie on pirates that mentionn ed a Carr being left by Kidd on some island where some treasure and a colo ny of friends had been set up. saw it in childhood, can't find it now. The following was a page I collected trying to get my brothers interest ed in genealogy. Have ordered photocopy of Edson Carr's book from Tuttle Antiquarian Bksell ers in VT so when it comes I won't be so bothersome. Thank you again.
NOTES COLLECTED ON THE INTERNET REGARDING CARRS AT SEA
THOMAS PAINE WAS MARRIED TO YOUNG JAMES CARR’S SISTER. CAPT KIDD DID BUSINESS WITH THEIR FATHER Caleb CARR and with Paine. Pai ne helped Kidd in his last trips to the NE before his deportation and tri al in London after political turns branded Kidd an outlaw. Rhode Island economy was very involved with privateering. Traders we mainstay of the business community. Privateers came to R I harbors wi little concern for the changeing legalities imposed by political and religious politics in New York. (see PIRATE HUNTERS, by Zarch(?), ____. 2002) Bk
JAMES CARR AND CAPT KIDD
....Caleb Carr took a very prominent part in the affairs of the settleme nt at Newport and in the Colony of Rhode Island. Among the offices in which he served were: Town Commissioner, Deputy, Justice, General Treasurer and Colonial Governor (in 1695 and terminated by his death late that same year)...Perhaps the thing that Caleb did that had the most lasting effe upon the family was his purchase of large tracts of land on the isla Conanicut/Jamestown, where several of his children took up their residenc e, and their descendants live there still...he also established a ferry betwe en Newport and Jamestown, in 1675, spanning two hundred and fifity years associated with the Carr family...in the course of all these activiti es he became possessed of considerable wealth and his residence was on what is n ow Mill Street in Newport...he owned wharves and a warehouse at the foot of M ill Street where the ferry now docks...his Will disposed of human as well as r eal and personal property ...his daughter Mary was without children but had a rather famous husba nd in Thomas Paine. He was a seafaring man and there is strong, evidence to pr ove that he was partner and intimate of the famous pirate, Captain Kidd.
Another Child of CALEB CARR and SARAH CLARKE is:
ix. JAMES CARR, b. 1680.
Capt. William Kidd, Pirate 10 September 1696 Articles of agreement between Capt. William Kidd, commander of the good sh ip Adventure, and John Walker, Quartermaster. Subscribed and agreed to by t he ship's company: Starboard Watch: (ABBREVIATED LIST) Aldris Saerdenbreech William Percy Nicholas Tredgidgen Phillip Conninghame
James Carr---only 16 but Kidd had trouble getting this crew together Samuel Bradley----Capt Kidd’s young brother in law; also:
Robert Bradinham George Bollen Peter Hammond Archibald B. Bohanan William Skines Edward Colliness Edward Roberts Peter P. Rouse Ellis Strong Yoer oovrall Thomas Hobson Cornelius Orvyn John Marten Wm. Wellman Charles Bathurst John Davis Thomas Fletcher Edward Buckmaster William Hunt Harculis Bredsteed Jan de Roodt Daniel Mokoricke Henry Sanders Edward Graham
RHODE ISLAND CEMETERY BASE HISTORICAL CEMETERY #: JM008 PAINE CEMETERY JAMESTOWN CAROLINE CO. VIRGINIA ORDER BOOK 1732-1740
Location: 250 ft east of EAST SHORE RD at TEL pole # 2 25 burials with 3 inscriptions from 1707 to 1806 30 ft x 30 ft in good condition no enclosure; sign missing
NOTE: between house (Cajacet) and road on lawn. There were many fieldston es here 50 years ago when it was a camp.
Legend says that the pirate Capt Kidd used to visit Capt Thomas Paine a nd that his first mate is buried in this cemetery. Some say Capt Kidd (1654-1701) is buried here, but he was hanged for murder and piracy at Lon don England on May 23 1701.
This cemetery has been recorded and checked. _________________________________website
continued .........KIDD And CARR NOTES
LIST OF THE NAMES of the Inhabitants of Barbados, in the Year 1638 (sic ?) who then possess'd more than ten Acres of Land.
Carr John Corbett Clement Kidd Thomas
This List, which is reprinted in P.F. Campbell's "Some Early Barbadian History", published Barbados, 1993, appears to be part of an old publication which Campbell reproduces in its entirety, and which is entitled: "Memoirs of the First Settlement of the Island of Barbados and other t Carribbee Islands, with the Succession of the Governors and Commande Chief of Barbados to the Year 1742, extracted from Ancient Records, Pape rs and Accounts taken from Mr. William Arnold, Mr. Samuel Bulkly, and Mr. Jo hn Summers, some of the First Settlers, the last of whom was alive in 1688, a ged 82. Also some Remarks on the Laws and Constitution of Barbados."
by William DUKE, the clerk of the House of Assembly, who first published t he 100 page book in Barbados in 1741.
Second edition London 1743. Reprinted in Bdos 1891. For more details, s Handler's "Guide to Source Materials for the study of Barbados History", p age 30.London, Printed for E. Owen near Chancery Lane, Holborn, MDCCXLII.
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ANOTHER CARR/KIDD CONNECTION 100 YRS LATER: Carrs and Kidds come to ‘Carolina’ territory at same time CAROLINE CO. VIRGINIA ORDER BOOK 1732-1740
p. 64; Thomas CARR acknowledge his deed of lease and releases of land indented to MOSSES KIDD, dated 14 Mar, 1733/4.
Moses Kidd son of William and Margaret Kidd of Middlesex County and lat King and Queen County was the first to move to Caroline Co., with his wi fe Dorothy and daughter Sarah. He appears in Caroline County in March 1733/ 4. He was followed by his brother Duel/Dirrill in 1743. Dirill married Mary Sorrow in 1735 and had a son, James born in 1736 and a daughter Margare born in 1739. They would be followed by brothers James in 1741 and Aar on in 1747. Aaron and James would later sojourn to Albemarle Co. where brother J ohn had moved in 1744.
The first courthouse in Caroline County was built in the trangle form ed by Kidd's Fork on the north in Caroline County and Shumanville on the sou th in King and Queen county and on the east by Ideal in Essex coutny. The buildi ng of the courthouse near Kidd's Fork in May, 1732 was synonymous with the beginning of record keeping in Caroline Co. Moses Kidd's appearance in Caroline County in 1733/4 was one of the fir st court records in Caroline County. James and Eliza Kidd fathered James Ki dd in or around 1734 and Webb Kidd in or around 1735. James and Eliza Kidd and their sons moved to Albemarle county around 1753. Aaron and Susanna Kidd a lso moved to Albemarle County around 1753.
More information about Capt. Kidd and pirates can be found in the books: Captain Kidd and the War Against the Pirates and: The Pirates of the New England Coast, 1630-1730 and: A General History of the Robberies and Murders of the Most Notorious Pirat es e
extra info--- HISTORICAL CEMETERY #: JM001 GOV CARR L JAMESTOWN
Location: 50 ft west of EAST SOUTH ROAD 12 burials with 12 inscriptions from 1675 to 1814 25 ft x 100 ft in good condition enclosed with a stone wall; sign in go od condition
NOTE: These stones were moved on Sep 8, 1900 by Mrs. John Fost er Carr from the old Carr Cemetery on Mill St. in Newport. See transit perm it dated 10 Sep 1900 in Jamestown
Town Clerk's Office. This cemete ry has been recorded but not checked.
lweiler@earthlink.net “ My ancestor, JOHN CARR, born in Barbados, son of ANDREW CARR, Gov. Caleb's brother, born in 1623 in London immigrated fr Barados, arriving in Charleston, SC on the ship "Blessing" in 1671. (I realize that in that day Barbados was a very general term, which could ha ve meant any island off the coast of the U.S., as well as many others). Does anyone have any information about ANDREW or JOHN CARR? would anyone k now where I can find a manifest of....”
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