Hardin Clay Roots #1

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Everyone in this tree is related "someway" to me. My Y-DNA (Father's line) is of the Haplogroup "G2A3B" ( I have an DNA match with another descendant of Jan Auckesze Van Nuys Born abt 1650 and Barbara Provoost ) - My X-DNA (Mother's Line) is of the haplogroup V

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  • ID: I100552
  • Name: Roger De Somery
  • Given Name: Roger De
  • Surname: Somery 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
  • Name: Lord Of Dudley
  • Given Name:
  • Surname: Lord Of Dudley
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: Abt 1175 in Barrow, Leicester, England
  • Christening: Sedgley, Stafford, England
  • Death: Abt 26 Aug 1273 in Dudley Castle, West Midlands, England
  • Burial: Built Dudley Castle
  • _TAG:
  • Event: Alt. Death Alt. Death
  • Note: Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, England
  • Event: Alt. Birth Alt. Birth 1172
  • Note: Chipping Camden, Gloucestershire & Sedgley, Staffordshire , England
  • Event: Alt. Birth Alt. Birth Abt 1175
  • Event: Alt. Birth Alt. Birth Abt 1175
  • Note: Dudley, Staffordshire, England
  • Event: Alt. Death Alt. Death Bef 26 Aug 1273
  • Note: Dudley, Warwickshire, England 10
  • _UID: 0AA803C7916E4D81B99ADEF2DA642D956C3D
  • Note:


    !First wife was Nichole D'Aubigny. [Ped. of Charlemagne]



    !Of Chipping Camden, co. Gloucester, and Sedgley, co. Staff ord, 1247; built Dudley Castle, 1262; father of Margaret d e Somery by Nichole. [Magna Charta Sureties, p. 148]

    !Lord of Dudley. [Magna Charta Barons, p. 415]

    Son of John de Somery and Hawise de Paynell; m.1 Nichole d' Aubigny and was father of Joan who m. John Lestrange IV; 2n d husband of Amabil de Chaucombe. Built Dudley Castle 1262 . [Charlemagne & Others, Chart 2526, 2931]

    Son of Ralph de Somery and Margaret Marshal; d. by 26 Aug 1 273; m.1 Nichole d'Aubigny; father of Margaret de Somery. [ Ancestral Roots, p. 59]

    Son of John de Somery and Hawise de Paynell; m. Nichola d'A ubigny; father of Margaret, Joan, Mabel, Maud and Roger II . [GRS 3.03, Automated Archives, CD#100]

    b. 1229, d. 1273, of Dinas Powis, Wales; m. Anibilia Chauco mbe; father of Roger Somery who m. Agnes. [WFT Vol 4 Ped 14 23]

    Son of Ralph Somery and Margaret Marshall; m. Anabel Chauco mb. [WFT Vol 10 Ped 2388]

    b.c. 1183, d. bef 27 Aug 1273; son of Sir Ralph de Somery a nd Margare FitzGilbert; m. Nichole d'Aubigny; father of Mar garet de Somery who m. Sir Ralph Basset. [Ed Mann
    d.1220; son of Ralph de Somery and Margaret Marshal; m. Id a Longesppe when she was under 18.

    The site of Dudley Castle lay abandoned after it was destro yed by Henry II when Gervase de Paynel supported the uprisi ng of Prince Henry. In the mid-thirteenth century Roger Som ery began to rebuild. He died in 1272 before the works wer e anything like complete, and they were carried on by his s on, John, said to have been one of the most hated feudal lo rds in the west Midlands. [Castles of Britain and Ireland , p. 142]



    Also Known As:<_AKA> Baron of Dudley Ancestral File Number : HNJK-HG

    The Magna Charta Sureties states that Roger is the son of J ohn de Somery and Hawise de Paynell. However Ancestral Roo ts and John and Hawise as grandparents with a generation "2 7a" (obviously a later addition to the original numbering ) indicatin Ralph de Somery and Margaret Marshal. I believ e that Ancestral Roots has the latest and correct informati on.




    Father: Ralph De Somery b: 1142 in Campden, Gloucester, England
    Mother: Margaret Fitz-Gilbert Marshall b: Abt 1160 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, England

    Marriage 1 Ida "Idonea" Camvile De Longespée b: Abt 1206 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
    • Married:
    • Change Date: 19 Jan 2014
    Children
    1. Has No Children Lora De Somery b: Abt 1225 in England
    2. Has No Children John De Somery b: Abt 1225 in Dudley Castle, Midlands, England

    Marriage 2 Nichole D'aubigny b: 1197 in Barrow On Soar, Leicester, England c: in Gloucester, Of Staffordshire, England
    • Married: Abt 1220 in Barrow, Leicester, England
    • Sealing Spouse: 9 Feb 1953 in SLAKE - Salt Lake Temple
    • Event: Alt. Marriage Alt. Marriage
    • Note: 1st wife 11
    • Event: Alt. Marriage Alt. Marriage Abt 1225
    • Note: Of, , Sussex, England
    • Change Date: 19 Jan 2014
    Children
    1. Has Children Mabel De Somery b: 1220
    2. Has Children Margaret De Somery b: 1222
    3. Has No Children Celilia De Somery b: 1223
    4. Has Children Joan De Somery b: 1225 in Dudley, Staffordshire, England
    5. Has No Children Ralph De Somery b: Abt 1227 in Staffordshire, England
    6. Has Children Roger De Somery b: 1227 in Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, England
    7. Has Children Maud De Somery b: Abt 1240 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England

    Sources:
    1. Abbrev: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, Fourth Edition
      Title: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, Fourth Edition
      Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis, Th.D.
      Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1991
      Repository:
        Name: Cheryl Varner Library
        Gray Court, SC

      Page: p. 148
      Quality: 3
    2. Abbrev: Magna Charta Barons and Their American Descendants, 1898
      Title: Magna Charta Barons and Their American Descendants, 1898
      Author: Browning, Charles D.
      Publication: Clearfield Company, Baltimore, 1969
      Repository:
        Name: Cheryl Varner Library
        Gray Court, SC

      Page: p. 415
      Quality: 3
    3. Abbrev: Charlemagne, Alfred the Great and Other Ancestors
      Title: Charlemagne, Alfred the Great and Other Ancestors
      Author: Mitchell, James T.
      Publication: 1991
      Repository:
        Name: Denver Public Library
        Denver, CO

      Page: Charts 2526, 2931
      Quality: 3
    4. Abbrev: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, Seventh Edition
      Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to A merica before 1700, Seventh Edition
      Author: Weis, Frederick Lewis
      Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1995
      Repository:
        Name: Cheryl Varner Library
        Gray Court, SC

      Page: p. 59
      Quality: 3
    5. Abbrev: Automated Archives, Automated Family Pedigrees #1, CD#100
      Title: Automated Archives, Automated Family Pedigrees #1, CD#100
      Author: Automated Archives, Inc.
      Publication: Genealogical Research System, 1994
      Repository:
        Name: Norvan L. Johnson
        Tinley Park, IL, IL 60477-4051
    6. Abbrev: World Family Tree Volume 4, pre-1600 to present
      Title: World Family Tree Volume 4, pre-1600 to present
      Author: Family Tree Maker
      Publication: Broderbund Software, Inc., 1996
      Page: Ped 1423
      Quality: 3
    7. Abbrev: World Family Tree Volume 10, pre-1600 to present
      Title: World Family Tree Volume 10, pre-1600 to present
      Author: Family Tree Maker
      Publication: Broderbund Software, 1997
      Repository:
        Name: Cheryl Varner Library
        Gray Court, SC

      Page: Ped 2388
      Quality: 3
    8. Abbrev: Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire
      Title: Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the Br itish Empire
      Author: Burke, Sir Bernard
      Publication: Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, 1996 (reprint o f 1883 edition)
      Page: p. 27
      Quality: 3
    9. Abbrev: Castles of Britain and Ireland
      Title: Castles of Britain and Ireland
      Author: Fry, Plantagenet Somerset
      Publication: David & Charles, UK, 1996
      Repository:
        Name: Cheryl Varner Library
        Gray Court, SC

      Page: p. 143
      Quality: 3
    10. Abbrev: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215
      Title: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215
      Author: Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr
      Publication: 5th Edition, 1999
      Repository:
        Name: n/a
        Note:




        UCLA Research Library

      Page: 136-2
      Quality: 3
    11. Abbrev: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215
      Title: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215
      Author: Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr
      Publication: 5th Edition, 1999
      Repository:
        Name: n/a
        Note:




        UCLA Research Library

      Page: 136-2

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