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  • ID: I167
  • Name: George ELDER
  • Given Name: George
  • Surname: ELDER
  • Nickname: George Senior; Old Briton
  • Sex: M
  • _UID: A94A155CDF9EC444B8029DAFD671AE5C404C
  • Change Date: 27 May 2006
  • Birth: 22 MAR 1780 in Pittenweem, Fife, Scotland 1
  • Death: 11 JUN 1848 in George passed away at fifteen minutes to one o'clock in Hinchinbrook (later re-named Elgin) Quebec
  • Note:
    3.2011
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    Elder
    Elder, George, Sr., native of Pittenweem, County of Fife, Scotland, and lately of Godmanchester, age about 68 years, died on 1848-06-11, and was buried on 1848-06-13 in the presence of the undersigned, what Alexander Wallace.
    Witnesses: Hayter, Jesse Lunan, James
    2 1
  • Burial: 13 JUN 1848 Scotch Church Burying Ground, Huntingdon, Quebec, Canada
  • Note:
    3.2011
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    Elder
    Elder, George, Sr., native of Pittenweem, County of Fife, Scotland, and lately of Godmanchester, age about 68 years, died on 1848-06-11, and was buried on 1848-06-13 in the presence of the undersigned, what Alexander Wallace.
    Witnesses: Hayter, Jesse Lunan, James

    From Elder Family Genealogy Database:
    The following is an extract from the Register of Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials of St. Andrews Huntingdon, Athelstan, and Elgin Presbyterian Churches, Quebec, Canada, for the year 1848.

    Burial:
    George Elder Senior, native [Melissa Moore changed the word "lately" to "native" to match the other church record] of Pittenweem, County of Fife - but when deceased of the Township of Hinchinbrook, aged about sixty eight years, died on the eleventh day of June and was buried on the thirteenth day of June, in Scotch Church Burying Ground, Huntingdon - In the presence of the undersigned - one thousand eight hundred and forty eight. Signed -
    Alexander Wallace ( Minister), Jesse Hayter, and James Lunan.

    Personal note by Donald M. Elder (1999): At this time there are no grave markers left to identify the "Scotch Church Burying Grounds" but this area is along side of the Chateauguay river, behind the Braithwaite building and the Masonic Hall. At some time, and for some reason, someone or some group decided that the graves and markers should be moved. This was done, and everything was supposed to end up in the Huntingdon Cemetery which is on F. Cleyn Street. I have never been able to find George's grave stone.
    2 1
  • Immigration: 1817 Pollokshaws, a suburb of Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland on the ship "Peace."
  • Note:
    From Elder family Genealogy database:
    George Elder immigrated from Scotland to Canada in 1817 on the ship "Peace." They left from Pollokshaws, a suburb of Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland. It took almost ten weeks to get to Montreal. They left before March 7th, the day Margaret was born.

    From Huntingdon Gleaner extracts - daughter Jane's death notice:
    03-08-1865 Jane Elder, wife of John White, eldest daughter of the late George Elder, at Trout River, Quebec, who immigrated to Canada in the year 1817, and settled in the township of Elgin, in the same year, being the oldest Scottish settler in the county of Huntingdon, deceased was a native of Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland.
    1 3
  • DSCR: Will 4 JUN 1848
  • Note:
    The following information was collected by Gina Smith <mailto:smith841@magma.ca> during her own research. She has kindly passed this information to the Huntingdon County GenWeb in case it could be useful to another researcher. Gina Smith is a professional genealogical researcher who has access to the National Archives of Canada and the Quebec National Archives.
    11) George Elder senior of Hinchinbrook June 4, 1848
    wife Ann McGilvray
    sons John, George, David & James Elder
    daughters Margret, Jane & Jannet Elder
    stepson Henry Logan(?)
    sister Margret Elder
    4
  • DSCR: Information about the Elgin Presbyterian Church
  • Note:
    Elgin Presbyterian Church (formerly the Kelso Presbyterian Church)
    Located on the north side of Second Concession Road between Smaill & Wattie side roads. The present church was built in 1890. An earlier stone church, which was built in 1858, was located across the road at the west end of the cemetery. This church was known earlier as Kelso Presbyterian Church, named after the hamlet located there. The church dates back to the late 1820's with the arrival of Scottish Presbyterian settlers. Before the church was established, Rev. Alexander McWattie, of Georgetown, served much of the county as a traveling circuit minister. The church now falls under the Synod of Quebec and Eastern Ontario.
    1
  • Occupation: He was a cooper by trade in Scotland. When making barrels in Canada he would average one barrel per 1
  • PROP: 1818/19
  • Note: In 1818, he bought Brewster's improvements and sent for his family, who arrived in 1819. At this time George was able to purchase a clearance that became available across the river on lot 1, where the Concession of Elgin sweeps around toward the old Tully place. George bought Lot 1, Range 3, in the Township of Elgin for 200 pounds sterling. He also owned Lot 50 in Godmanchester. 1
  • PROP: Hinchinbrooke Statistical report 1824
  • Note:
    George Elder, emigrated from Scotland, had been in Canada 5 years:
    Household consisted of 3 males and 2 females who were 16 years or older and 6 children under 16, for a total of 11 people in the family. They had 25 acres of improved land, with one house, 2 horses, and 7 horned cattle. They were "located to G. Buckham,"
    5
  • Residence: WINTER 1817 - 1818 Spent his first winter in Canada in Montreal. 1
  • Residence: 1818 In 1818 he left Montreal and struck out for the Chateauguay and spent the winter with David Bryson g 1
  • Residence: 1818/19 Trout River, then Elgin
  • Note: George moved up along the Trout river on the Godmanchester side, about four miles above the forks. He worked with Abram Sutton, getting out oak staves. He bought Brewster's improvements and sent for his family, who arrived in 1819. At that time George was able to purchase a clearance that became available across the river on lot 1, where the Concession of Elgin sweeps around toward the old Tully place. George bought Lot 1, Range 3, in the Township of Elgin for 200 pounds sterling. 1
  • Residence: 1818 Settled in Elgin township, Huntingdon County, Canada. Oldest Scottish settler in the county. 1



    Father: John ELDER b: ABT JUL 1741 in Kilconquhar, Fife, Scotland
    Mother: Jean LUKE b: 1739 in St. Monance, Fife, Scotland (alternate spelling: St. Monans)

    Marriage 1 Christina HOSIE b: ABT 1781 in Falkirk, Sterling, Scotland
    • Married: 25 FEB 1801 in George ELDER and Christina HOSIE married in Falkark, Sterling, Scotland.
    • Note: LDS site says year of marriage is 1802. 1
    Children
    1. Has Children Jane ELDER b: 24 FEB 1802 in Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland or in Pittenweem, County of Fife, Scotland c: 7 MAR 1802 in Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
    2. Has Children George ELDER b: 9 APR 1804 in Pittenweem, Fife, Scotland
    3. Has Children John ELDER b: 14 MAR 1806 in Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
    4. Has Children Jannet ELDER b: 20 DEC 1808 in Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
    5. Has Children James ELDER b: 6 SEP 1811 in Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
    6. Has Children David ELDER b: 20 MAR 1814 in Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland
    7. Has Children Margret ELDER b: 7 MAR 1817 in Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, Scotland

    Marriage 2 Ann MCGILVRAY b: 1797 in Native of Glen Elg, Inverness Shire, Scotland
    • Married: 30 NOV 1837 in Glen Eng. Inverness Shire, Scotland. Both were widows
    • Note:
      3.1809
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      Elder/McGillivray
      Elder, George, farmer of the Township of Hinchinbrooke, County of Beauharnois and District of Montreal, a widower, of the age of majority and McGillivray, Anne, a widow of the age of majority, after due proclamation of bans and no objections offered were united in wedlock on 1837-11-30, by W. Montgomery Walker, minister.
      Witnesses: elder, George McGillivray, Anne (x) Lamb, Mary Corbett, Robert
      2

    Sources:
    1. Abbrev: Elder Family Genealogy Database
      Title: Rod Elder, Donald Elder, Barbara Nelson & Murray Elder, Elder Family Genealogy Databasenealogy Databasenealogy Database.
      Note:
      Melissa Moore found Murry Elder via the Huntingdon County Guest Book on the web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~qchuntin/Default.htm. In Murry's email to Melissa on 5-21-2005 he said about his database: Rod Elder started work on the genealogy of the Elder family in the 1950s and he captured a lot of information from people's first hand accounts that were still fresh in their minds. Then Donald Elder of Huntingdon Quebec, Barbara Nelson of Shelton Washington USA and Murray Elder of Langham Saskatchewan all started collecting information independently. When they discovered each other, they shared information to create a database that contained 1900 names by May 2005.

      From Murray Elder, May 2005: Info on the Scotland connections came from a man named Don Page. He lives in Edinburgh. His wife is related to the Elders and he has done a lot of research on the Elder line. He is connected to a different branch.
      Repository:

        Langham, Saskatchewan, Canada
    2. Abbrev: Huntingdon County Church and Court Records
      Title: Huntingdon County Church and Court Records, Huntingdon County Church and Court Recordsd Court Recordsd Court Records.
      Repository:
      • Abbrev: Huntingdon Gleaner Extracts newspaper
        Title: Huntingdon Gleaner Extracts newspaper
        Repository:
        • Abbrev: Gina Smith
          Title: Gina Smith (Huntingdon County Genweb site - Notary and Will section)
          Text: The following information was collected by Gina Smith during her own research. She has kindly passed this information to the Huntingdon County GenWeb in case it could be useful to another researcher. Gina Smith is a professional genealogical researcher who has access to the National Archives of Canada and the Quebec National Archives.
          Repository:
          • Abbrev: Huntingdon County Genweb site
            Title: Huntingdon County Genweb site
            Repository:

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