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  • ID: I25553
  • Name: Christian Darr
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1744 in Berks County, Pennsylvania
  • Death: 23 JAN 1824 in Union City, Union County, Pennsylvania
  • NATI: German
  • Occupation: Carpenter
  • Military Service: NOV 1776 Served during American Revolution under Captain Nagle's Company, Colonel Thompson's Regiment
  • Note:

    CHRISTAIN DARR

    Christian Darr/Derr, Revolutionary War, View Military Page Link, Ancestry.Com
    http://trees.ancestry.com/view/military.aspx?tid=4931072&pid=1270444823&gss=seotrees

    POSSIBLE ANCESTRY?

    Descendant of German Immigrant, Johan Christian Dorr

    Melchior Darr 1721-1810 - Europe to Pennsylvania
    Source:
    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~leejeans/darrother.html


    IMMEDIATE FAMILY SUMMARY

    Christian Derr b. Berks Co., PA 1744
    m. Magdalena Smelchner
    Christian Derr m Catherine Fritz, 29 Oct 1805???

    Dorr, Christian or Christian Derr, S42153, PA line, sol enl at Reading in Berks Cty PA, sol appl 25 May 1818 Union Cty PA aged 71, in 1820 sol stated he had 11 children but only Daniel was at home, sol did not mention a wife in 1820, in 1820 sol was supported by West Buffalo Twnshp PA sol d 23 Jan 1824 Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files, p. 1003
    Children
    1. Elias
    2. Samuel
    3. Henry b 1774 d~1850
    m Mary Dull b 1789 d 1847 (ps Peter & Elizabeth)
    4. Susan m. Egbert & Kline
    daughter Polly m. Jones
    5. Elizabeth m. Kepner
    6. John
    7. Catherine m. Barrich
    8.Christian jr.
    9. Daniel
    10. Joseph
    11. ?

    UNITED STATES CENSUS RECORDS

    Note:
    1772, 21 Mar; Northumberland formed from Lancaster & Bedford

    1790; Census Place:
    County: Northumberland State: Pennsylvania;
    Roll: M637_9; Page: 6; Image: 261; Family History Library Film: 0568149.
    Christn Derr [Christon Derr] No Twp 7
    Number of Free White Males Under 16: 1
    Number of Free White Males 16 and Over: 2
    Number of Free White Females: 1
    Number of Household Members: 4

    1800; Census Place:
    Township: West Buffalo, County: Northumberland, State: Pennsylvania;
    Roll: 37; Page: 848; Image: 203; Family History Library Film: 363340.
    (Christian / George Derr - W Buffalo 849)
    Christian Derr
    Free White Males Under 10: 3
    Free White Males 16 to 25: 1
    Free White Males 45 and Over : 1
    Free White Females Under 10 : 3
    Free White Females 26 to 44 : 1
    Number of Household Members Under 16 : 6
    Number of Household Members Over 25 : 2
    Number of Household Members: 9

    1810; Census Place:
    Township: West Buffalo County: Northumberland State: Pennsylvania
    Roll: 53; Page: 340; Family History Number: 0193679; Image: 00137.
    (Christian Derr - Mifflinsberg 133)
    Christian Derr
    Free White Males Under 10: 2
    Free White Males 16 to 25: 1
    Free White Males 45 and Over: 1
    Free White Females 10 to 15: 1
    Free White Females 16 to 25: 1
    Number of Household Members Under 16: 3
    Number of Household Members Over 25: 1
    Number of Household Members: 6

    Note:
    In 1813: Union Co, Pa formed from Northumberland

    1820 U S Census:
    Township: West Buffalo, County: Union, State: Pennsylvania
    Page: 82; NARA Roll: M33_113; Image: 148.
    Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820
    (Christian / jr / Elias - W Buffalo 82)
    Christian Derr
    Free White Males - Under 10: 1
    Free White Males - 26 thru 44: 1
    Free White Males - 45 and over: 1
    Free White Females - Under 10: 3
    Free White Females - 16 thru 25: 1
    Number of Persons - Engaged in Manufactures: 1
    Free White Persons - Under 16: 4
    Free White Persons - Over 25: 2
    Total Free White Persons: 7
    Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 7


    MILITARY SERVICE - AMERICAN REVOLUTION

    Christian Derr who's name is listed with others, who are memorialized for their services in Cambridge, Massachusetts
    on a Bronze plaque located at the Berks County Courthouse. in Reading, Pennsylvania.

    Revolutionary War Soldier listed as Dorr

    Christian Derr was born about 1748 and died in Union County, PA on 23 Jan., 1824 according to his pension record from the National Archives. Christian was a Revolutionary War soldier. He was a member of "Colonel Thompson's Battalion of Riflemen" and re-enlisted once. He joined the American Army at Boston and saw action at King's Bridge, Brandywine, and Germantown. He was wounded at Germantown and later discharged. After this he served as a privateer aboard the Rattlesnake, a history of which appears in the book, "American Privateers," E. S. Maclay, 1899. In his pension records, Christian signed his named as both Derr and Doerr. Also, his pension record states that he had 11 children but it does not name them, only those which were still living with him - Daniel who is listed as a cripple and Joseph.

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    American Revolutionary War Battles:
    Brandywine (11 Sep 1777) British Victory
    Germantown (4 Oct 1777) British Victory

    Search Google Books for....

    Annals of Buffalo Valley, Pennsylvania 1755-1855 By John Blair Linn

    Page 302
    Derr, Christian, house carpenter, small chip log house

    Page 452
    Christian Derr b. 1748... the text is as follows:

    Derr, Christian, West Buffalo, aged, in 1820, seventy-two. Enlisted at Reading, in Captain Nagle's Company, Colonel Thompson's Regiment, and served one year; re-enlisted in November, 1776, in Captain Moore's company, Colonel Humpton's regiment, and served in the battle of King's Bridge, 11th January, 1777, Brandywine, and Germantown. In the last action he was wounded, had several ribs broken, and was, therefore, discharged.

    He was a carpenter, and had eleven children. He had three balls [bullets?] in his body, which he carried to his grave.

    His children were Ellis Derr, Mifflinburg; Samuel, Uniontown; Henry, Schellsburg, Bedford County; Susan, married to Jesse Egbert, afterwards David Kline, of Hartley; Polly, to ____ Jones, of Sugar Valley; Elizabeth, to William Kepner, moved to Venango; John, Oley township, Berks; Catherine, to Henry Barrich; Christian, junior, who died in Spring township, Centre County, in 1852. His children live in and about Bellefonte: Daniel, Rachel, married to William Young; William, in Benezet; Christian and Solomon, in Bellefonte.



    Dorr, Christian or Christian Derr, S42153, PA line,

    sol enl at Reading in Berks Cty PA,
    sol appl 25 May 1818 Union Cty PA aged 71, in 1820
    sol stated he had 11 children but only Daniel was at home,
    sol did not mention a wife in 1820, in 1820
    sol was supported by West Buffalo Twnshp PA
    sol d 23 Jan 1824 Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files, p. 1003

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    Pennsylvania in the War of the Revolution : battalions and line, 1775-1783
    Edited by John Blair Linn, William H. Egle, M. D.
    Harrisburg: L.S. Hart, state printer, 1880
    Author: Linn, John Blair, 1831-1899; Egle, William Henry M. D., 1830-1901; McClellan, Joseph, 1747-1834
    Volume: 1
    Subject: Pennsylvania -- History Revolution, 1775-1783 Sources;
    United States -- History Revolution, 1775-1783 Regimental histories; Pennsylvania -- Militia
    Publisher: Harrisburg : L.S. Hart, State Printer, 1880

    Chapter:
    Vol. I, Col. William Thomsons Battalion of Riflemen
    (Battalion of Riflemen 35)
    Page number: 1_35
    Derr, Christian, Reenlisted in old Eleventh, Col. Humptor
    and
    Chapter:
    Vol. I. Continental Line. Eleventh Pennsylvania, (Known as the "Old Eleventh.")
    Page number: 1_749
    Privates.
    Derr, Christian, From Thompson's rifles; wounded at Germantown;
    had three rigs broken; carried three balls in his body;
    resided in Union county in 1820, aged seventy-two.

    REVOLUTIONARY WAR VETERAN PENSION

    Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900
    Name: Christian Derr (or Dorr)
    Application State: Pennsylvania
    S 42153
    Archive Publication Number: M804
    Archive Roll Number: 800
    Total Pages in Packet: 1

    Pennsylvania Pensioners, 1835
    Information: County: Union Co.
    Name: Christian Derr
    Rank: Private
    Annual Allowance: 96 00
    Sums Received: 543 74
    Description of service: Pennsylvania continental
    When placed on the pension roll: May 15, 1820
    Commencement of pension: May 25, 1818
    Age: 76
    Laws under which inscribed, increased or reduced OR
    Remarks.: Died January 23, 1824.


    U.S. Pensioners, 1818-1872
    Line 14, Name: Christian Derr
    Pension Office State: Pennsylvania
    Year range: 1818-1832
    Monthly Allowance: $8.00; Half Year = $48.00

    Source:
    1818-1872, to U.S. Pensioners Under Acts of 1818 Through 1858
    From Records of the Office of the Third Auditor of the Treasury, 1818-1872;
    (National Archives Microfilm Publication T718, 23 rolls);
    Records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of the Treasury,
    Record Group 217; National Archives, Washington, D.C.

    OTHER SOURCES OF MILITARY SERVICE

    Christian's first enlistment which appears on pages 139-140 of "History of Berks County in PA.," Morton L. Montgomery, 1886.
    History of his unit and includes a roster. It is "Thompson's Battalion," Oscar H. Stroh, 1976.

    OTHER RELATED INTERESTS

    Thompsons' Rifle Battalion: Capt. George Nagel's Company - Pennsylvania Historical Markers on Waymarking.com
    http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMAAD_Thompsons_Rifle_Battalion_Capt_George_Nagels_Company
    Marker Text: With men enlisted from Berks County, Nagel's Company was a part of the first battalion in the colonies authorized by Congress, in June 1775. After gathering at Reading the following month, this company and other companies of the battalion marched approximately 350 miles in order to join the American siege of Boston.

    The Continental Congress in session in Philadelphia on June 14, 1775 voted to raise companies of riflemen. Six of these companies were to be from Pennsylvania, however the response of the frontiersmen of Pennsylvania was so great the number was increased to eight and then to nine. Collectively, the companies were originally called Thompson's Rifle Battalion. The battalion was under the command of William Thompson of Carlisle, Cumberland County. For a brief period in 1775, the battalion was called the Pennsylvania Rifle Regiment. When the army was reorganized in January of 1776, the battalion was called The First Continental Regiment and following another reorganization in July 1776, the rifle battalion officially became the First Pennsylvania Regiment of the Continental Line.
    Source: http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeei5e7/thefirstparegiment/id2.html


    BURIAL

    I know that he is Buried in Bedford county pa but where I am not sure. I is possible that he is in the Log Church but was mistakenly omitted from the records. You will Note that Henry his son was one of the founding members and was buried there in 1850. But it is also possible he was buried in union church yard. I am working on this but expect it may never be solved.

    Source from 8th Generation Descendant:
    Dennis8, Lee7, Herman6, Kimmel5, Michael4, Christian3, Henry2, Christian1








    Marriage 1 Magdalena Smelchner
      Children
      1. Has Children Henry Darr b: 1774 in Berks County, Pennsylvania
      2. Has No Children Ellis Derr
      3. Has No Children Samuel Derr
      4. Has No Children Susan Derr
      5. Has No Children Elizabeth Derr
      6. Has No Children Catherine Derr
      7. Has No Children Christian Junior Derr b: 17 AUG 1781 in Pennsylvania
      8. Has No Children David Derr
      9. Has No Children John Derr

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