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  • ID: I16243
  • Name: James SMITH Esq
  • Surname: Smith
  • Given Name: James
  • Suffix: Esq
  • Prefix: Judge?
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1732
  • Death: AFT 25 Mar 1759 in Nine Partners,Dutchess,NY
  • _UID: 12B567241B97DF4EB24FF5BB5AD6B6C28A9C
  • Note:
    Pg.5 James Smith son of Nathan Smith Ear mark is a Crop on the Left Ear and a halfe the upper side Each Ear Recorded the twenty seventh Day of January 1752
    The above mark is Transfared to James Talmeg the 17th Day of February 1773 by me Peter Germond Clerk

    A deed of June 29, 1745 refers to 'James Smith's grist mill'
    In a deed of April 4, 1751 James Smith was called a 'miller of Crum Elbow'
    Another deed of March 3, 1752 also mentions 'James Smith's grist mill' This deed is particularly interesting because it involves a purchase made by William Buck.

    from Jean Marston:

    James appears in the tax records in Nine Partners, Crum Elbow, Charlotte June 1747--Feb 1762.
    1752 and 1754 James, son of Nathan, chosen as Constable
    1775 James Smith (no positive connection) named Collector/Constable/Judge for Charlotte Precinct
    1761 James Smith Esq. chosen assessor in Crum Elbow Precinct
    1768 James Smith Esq. chosen supervisor Charlotte Precinct
    1770 James Smith Esq. chosen supervisor Charlotte Precinct
    1775 James Smith Esq. chosen collector/constable Charlotte Precinct
    1776 James Smith chosen supervisor and collector/constable for Charlotte Precinct
    From Records of Crum Elbow Precinct by FDR:
    James Smith's name appears in the Records of Crum Elbow Precinct/Charlotte in the years 1752-78. He is described as son of Nathan and was chosen constable for the year ensuing 7 Apr 1752; chosen constable for year ensuing 2 Apr 1754.

    Had a son named James.

    James Smith son of Nathan Smith dec'd of Crum Elbow purchased land from Cornelius and Theodorus Van Wyck of Rombout May 16, 1755. Lot 19 at a place called Stissing 1/2 of Lot 19. 400 acres.
    (The date of purchase of land corresponds with the date of the settlement of the estate of Nathan Smith Sr.)

    James Smith, son of Nathan Smith 1/4 Lot 19. ( from Isaac Germond and Jacob Haff of Crum Elbow) Bounded So., by 19; E - heirs Henry Filkin; No. Little Nine Partners; W.- middle of run of water that runs into Wappingers Crick. Begins NE corner of Lott 19. 350 acres. Witness: Barnardus Filkin, Silas Smith

    In 1767, Ebenezer Husted bought 87 acres of James Smith and Dorus his wife, all of Charlotte Precinct.

    I think this is "Judge" James Smith who was called a Tory. I'd appreciate some help to confirm this. I believe this James Smith had his land confiscated during the Revolution.

    Year: 1784 File # 10941 Name/Town: Smith, James, Char. Record Type: Warr. Misprision of treason etc.

    SMITH, James ("Judge") and wife, Dorus, brother of Isaac Smith, Esquire, about 1760-65 lived on the Isaac Huntting homestead in north Stanford, and it is said built the original house there. See marriage of his two sons, James and Henry, in Peter Smith lineage. He was called a tory. Also from Jean Marston:

    I was contacted by a descendant of Judge James Smith's son Henry. He listed the children as Seymour, Rodney, Sidney, Henry, Silas. His line was from Seymour. They moved to Sharon Springs, NY. They are buried there. I can send a bit more.

    Jean lists his death as circa 1787; he disappears from the records around that timeframe. Maybe he did not die but instead moved to Canada with the rest of the Loyalists.


    Hi

    Enjoyed your site and impressed by all the research.

    Here in Port Hope, Ontario, Canada (north shore of Lake Ontario) we are
    researching Peter SMITH, a fur trader who established a trading post here
    from 1788-1790, before the first (loyalist) settlers arrived. He has proved
    to very elusive!! Little confirmed information on where he came from or
    where he went afterwards. He may turn out to be related to Elias SMITH, Esq,
    who worked as an engineer for the British in NYC during the revolution.
    Elias & a partner, captain Jonathan Walton, received the land patent for
    Hope Township, Upper Canada (later Port Hope) in 1793 and they brought the
    first settlers here. Nothing at all is known about the parents or siblings
    of Peter Smith the trader, or Elias Smith. (After the war Elias owned about
    10 merchant ships and became wealthy. He moved to Montreal about 1790 where
    he was a merchant. His descendants still live in Port Hope).

    In order to find the history of Peter the fur trader, I've been tracking 2-3
    Peter Smiths through early Ontario history. One is Lieut. Peter J. Smith of
    the King's American Regiment. Petitions submitted to the government here
    confirm that he was definitely the son of Judge James Smith who settled at
    the Bay of Quinte, further east down the lake from Port Hope. I notice that
    you speculate that James Smith of Crum Elbow precinct was the Tory judge.
    Judge James of Quinte notes that he was a judge of the court common pleas in
    Dutchess County and that he was tarred & feathered, although he tells us
    nothing about where in Dutchess he lived.

    You may be interested in the excellent website of Randy Saylor, below. He's
    found the will of Judge James which lists his sons as James, Henry (whose
    son mentions Henry was a 'natural' son), John and a deceased son which seems
    from other land petitions to be Lieut Peter J. Smith. No wife is mentioned
    for Judge James. Randy has contacted Frank Doherty who suggests that this
    James may be the same as Crum Elbow precinct (as you're thinking as well).

    http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~saylormowbray/smithjames.h
    tml

    I don't know that this provides you with any more information to confirm the
    connection, but hopefully it will help. I will also let Randy Saylor know
    about your website as he'll be interested to know who Judge James parents
    were.
  • Change Date: 16 Apr 2012 at 18:17:29



    Father: Nathan* SMITH Sr b: ABT 1693
    Mother: Hester* GREEN b: 16 Dec 1696 in Stamford,Fairfield,CT

    Marriage 1 Sarah
      Children
      1. Has No Children Mary SMITH b: 23 Jun 1752 in Nine Partners,Dutchess,NY
      2. Has No Children Zubah SMITH b: 26 Apr 1754 in Nine Partners,Dutchess,NY

      Marriage 2 Dorus
        Children
        1. Has No Children James SMITH Jr.
        2. Has Children Henry SMITH
        3. Has No Children Peter? SMITH
        4. Has No Children John SMITH

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