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  • ID: I0036
  • Name: Martin SHALLOO
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1832 in COUNTY CLARE, IRELAND
  • Birth: ABT 1840 in County Clare, Ireland
  • Death: 27 OCT 1917 in Drumellihy, County Clare, Ireland 1
  • Note:
    From Clare Heritage Centre letter dated 14 July 1995 to William Saltzer:

    "Church registers during the last century did not record deaths. in fact, deaths were not recorded until the commencement of Civil Registration in 1864. Here at the Centre over the past number of months, we have been indexing the Civil Death registers from their commencement in 1864 up until the late 1930 period. Consequently, I am now in the position to provide you with particulars on all recorded deaths in the Shalloo family during the above mentioned time-fram, the details being:

    "On 27th October, 1917, your [William Saltzer's] great-grandfather's [Patrick Shalloo, 1835-1899] brother, Martin Shalloo, died at Drumellihy. He was shown to have been married. His age was given as 95. His occupation was listed as a farmer. Senile decay was recorded as the cause of death. His son-in-law, Michael Marrinan was shown to have been present at the time of his death." (William Saltzer's notes indicate that he was probably 85 when he died, calculating his birth year as about 1832, not 1822, per the following]:

    Also from Clare Heritage Centre letter dated 14 July 1995 to William Saltzer:

    "The oldest official census in Ireland dates back to April, 1901. At this stage, the Shalloo family, namely your [William Saltzer's] great-grandfather's brother [Martin Shalloo] had moved from the Craggaknock/Cloonadrum area south th the townland area of Drumellihy (McDonnell). From the enclosed copy of the old Ordinance Survey Map you will note that Drumellihy (McDonnell) is situated about 3 miles further south of Craggaknock and is situated in the ecclesiastical Parish of Cooraclare. The census lists the following residing at the Shalloo home:

    "Martin Shalloo, head of the family. His age was given as 65. His occupation was listed as a farmer. It was shown that he could read both Irish and English. Living with him was his wife, Bridget, their son-in-law Michael Marrinan, his wife i.e., their daughter, Bridget, and their grandchildren, Ellen Marrinan, age 13, Mary Marrinan, age 9, Kate Marrinan, age 4, and Bridget Marrinan, aged 11 [sic-- since age is out of sequence, could this be 11 months rather than 11 years?]. "

    "The census describes the Shalloo home at Drumellihy (McDonell) as having stone walls, a thatched roof, three windows to the front, and three rooms."
    ==============

    Subject:
    Re: Shalloo,Elizabeth
    Date:
    Mon, 23 Oct 2000 00:16:51 -0400 (EDT)
    From:
    sharondarr@webtv.net (Sharon Immersi)
    To:
    kschneider@att.net (Ken and Mary Lou Schneider)
    CC:
    FMBruno@aol.com (Mary Ellen Bruno), danmary1973@home.com (Dan and Mary Schneider),
    pinglora@warwick.net (Ray and Nina Pinglora), mwesley@ll.mit.edu (Mark Wesley)


    Thank God!!!!!! Here,s what I have: Martin Shalloo married Bridget Halloran,resided in the old Civil Parish of Kilmurry Ibrickane, today known as Parish of MullaghQuilty. They had the following children, John Baptised 17th Nov. 1860, Mary Baptised 2nd March 1862 (died), Mary Baptised 28th Jan. 1866, Margaret Baptised 22nd Oct. 1867, Eleanor Baptised 9th Jan. 1870, Honora Baptised 22nd April 1871, Catherine Baptised 26th Feb.1873, Winifred Baptised 15th Nov.1874 and Elizabeth Baptised 3rd March 1877. because of high mortality in infants, all children were baptised within 3 days of birth. It was the custom in Ireland at that time when a child died the next born be given the same christian name, that,s why there,s 2 Mary,s. My grandfather Patrick McKeown married Elizabeth Shalloo around 1905, they had 7 children, 6 sons & 1 daughter (all deceased) My father was the youngest and was born 7/19/21. I am searching as to where they are buried. John (born 1860) had a son Martin & daughter Bridget, Martin married a Helen but they called her Nellie, my father was sent to live with them after his father died, they lived at 389 Halstead St., East Orange. The N.J. Shalloo,s are as follows:John & Anita (widow), Point Pleasant Beach, N.J. 08742 - David (son) same address, M. Shalloo, Spring Lake,NJ 07762, M. Shalloo,
    Middletown, NJ 07748, Daniel, Forked River, NJ 08731, Catherine, same address, P. Shalloo, Belmar, NJ 07715, F. Shalloo, same address, & C, Shalloo, Belmar, NJ 07715. I spoke to both David and his mother today on the phone, Anita,s husband was my fathers second cousin, she,s sending me info. I also know there are others, we have relatives by the name of Job in Vermont too. Let me know how you make out. Sincerey, Sharon (McKeown) Immersi

    Subject:
    Re: Shalloo,Elizabeth
    Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 01:57:31 -0400 (EDT)
    From: sharondarr@webtv.net (Sharon Immersi)
    To: kschneider@att.net (Ken and Mary Lou Schneider)

    Hi Ken, Now I really can,t sleep!!!!! My info is quite limited because my dad died in 1974 and since he was the youngest of 7 his memories were also limited but this is what he told me. After his father (Patrick McKeown) died around 1929/30 all the childred were removed from the mother and sent to live with relatives, I have no idea what happened to my grandmother because I think that is such a sad situation, a woman loses her husband, the "system" removes all her children, and she must move from her home all at one time. I have a copy of my fathers birth cert. with my grandfathers and grandmothers handwriting on it, he was delivered by a mid-wife, I also have a copy of his application for social security, that,s how I know he lived in East Orange. I sent to Trenton, NJ to obtain both my grandparents death records and marriage records but I won,t hear anything for about another 6-8 weeks (and they
    BETTER have some info). The 1910 & 1920 census shows he lived in Elizabeth,NJ as a wireworker. The 1920 census is as follows: name- McKeon,Patrick, vol.111 E.D.76, sheet-10 line 34 - birthplace Massacusettes, residance 435 Marshall Street, Elizabeth N.J. Wife - McKeon, Elizabeth - age 37 citizen-nat Children- William - 13 Thomas - 11 Walter - 9 Elizabeth -6 John 4-10 mons & James 3-9 mons. My father wasn,t born yet. It was very common for immigrants to deduct 3-5 yrs from their age for passage, marriage, work etc. because on my fathers birth cert. she lists her age as 41yrs and my grandfather 44 yrs. A woman from clareheritage@eircom.net or Web: http//clare_irshroots.net/ gave me most of my info, in fact she called me on the phone to discuss the facts in the beging of Sept., her name is Antoinette O,Brien and I just emailed her to continue my inquiry, she told my the Shalloo name was very popular in Co.Clare, she did warn me that there may be problems transfer-encoding the language, that,s why she writes so I can understand about boundries etc. I hope to receive quite a bit of info from her.My father Joseps married Evelyn Golding on Aug 2,1942 Talk soon, Sharon
    My address is 482 Joralemon St.-apt-E-4, Belleville, NJ 07109

    I show a sister Margaret but not Margaret Ann, I,m so sorry about the way I spelled my own fathers name (I,ve been so excited to find out I have cousins that I,m sure I spelled more wrong, but my own father,
    shame on me), his name is spelled Joseph Patrick McKeown. There are also several Bridgets, I just forwarded you the McKeown census records up until 1890, Patrick & Bridget McKeown (on census McKeon) are my grandparents, I know there was a sister Mary and several others, there are names I remember, like Thomas, John, James, William etc. since children were not listed on census records, I am guessing these are my grandfathers siblings. Also my great-great-grandfather Patrick McKeown
    married Catherine O,Brien on Mar. 19, 1849,they were married in Monroe County, Michigan, at some time moved to Massacusettes where my grandfather Patrick was born, they had quite a large family. There were Bridget,s on both the Shalloo and McKeown side. Martin and Nellie had several children also, I know of David, Elaine, Richard form R.I. , and Thomas from Mass. and they all have children, it
    goes on and on. I don,t have anything on a Bridget who married a Marrinan though.

    Before I forget, my parents spoke of a Johnny Walker and a Johnny Walsh. It,s very possible the woman committed to the sanitarium could be my grandmother Elizabeth, she would have been in her 40,s because no one seems to know what happened to her after her husband died and her 7 children were taken away and placed with relatives, I know I would have had a nervous breakdown, any mother would
    and that does give me a lead possibly on her.
    I
    Also signed onto www.wallofhonor.com, click on to Search th Wall (on the right hand side) and found the same McKeown names as on the 1890 census. By the way, the correct spelling is McKeown but I was cautioned to watch for misspellings since other people filled out census forms. Have a great and safe trip and I,m sure there will be much more info by the time you get back, we just have to verify what we hear, so far I,m on the money because of copies of records that showed address, and were verified by Anita Shalloo. Have fun, Sharon p.s. I see 1 typo already but not important.

    By the way, are all the Shalloo sisters and brother accounted for, because my Dad often spoke of 1 Aunt who remained in Ireland and was a Cloister Nun, he said his mother told him about her?
    Sharon

    Also from Sharon:
    Hi Ken, I
    finally received more information from Co. Clare, it came today. One thing that stands out is Martin Shalloo, you have him as being born about 1840, they say he was born appro. 1822, in short, they have much more information on the Shalloo family if we want it, for a price $185.00.

    From: "Declan Barron"
    To:
    Subject: Shalloo
    Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 20:53:52 -0000

    In the phone book there is 1 family still in west Clare C. Shalloo, 39 Marian estate, Carrigaholt rd., Kilkee, Co.Clare, IRELAND Best of luck
    Declan

    Mark Wesley sent a package on the Shalloos to Ken Schneider. This is Ken's reply to Mark with copies to Nina Pinglora-
    Mark--
    Received the information. The pictures were beautiful. Your Great-grandmother looks a lot like my Grandmother. I remember Sister Margaret Henry's corrugated face frame. I will share my updated Family Tree with the other on-line Shaloo relatives.

    Of interest is your list of names, telephone numbers and addresses of the Shalloos living in County Clare at the time of your mother's visit last year. To reiterate for Nina, Dan, Anne and Mary Bruno, they are:

    Shalloo, John (061) 47 31 74 Kilmore Bradford, Clare
    Shalloo, C (065) 5 68 86 39 Marian Est. Carrigaholt Rd, Kilkee
    Shalloo, Laurence (065) 7 13 70 Caheramore, Kilshanny
    Shalloo, Mrs. Mary (065) 3 53 45 Tierovannan, O'Callaghan's Mills
    Shalloo, Patrick (065) 3 53 20 Silvergo Bodyke

    Perhaps one of us will take the initiatve and write to one or all of them. I assume the rest of the address is "County Clare, Ireland." Whoever is first to have the courage, please let the rest of us know.

    (Ken Schneider wrote to Patrick-- not a relative; e-mail description follows:]

    Note to Shalloo descendants and also to Kathryn McCarthy---

    Received a very nice note from Mark Wesley's mother, Dolores. She was excited about the memories we had of "Aunt Amy" Soper (Sister Margaret Henry) and her classroom in Bloomfield, NJ. She was my first cousin, once removed. My grandmother, Ella Shallo was her aunt. Dolores Wesley described her as "multi-talented, a loving teacher and Aunt, with a great sense of humor."

    Also, I wrote to Patrick Shalloo (Silvergrove, Bodyke, County Clare, Ireland). Mentioned information I received about the family from Kathryn McCarthy ( wexlababe@hotmail.com ). Received a reply from Maureen Shalloo, dated 5/5/99. Text follows:

    <On behalf of my son Patrick who is a busy dairy farmer, with regard to your request for information of your ancestors. Patrick's grandfather had six sisters and all of them married local farmers here in East Clare. None emigrated, so it is not this branch of Shalloo's.
    According to your letter, Ella Shalloo born 1870 in Dromeliky Cooraclare, that is in West Clare a short distance from the town of Kilrush (?spelling). It's about 40 (?) miles from here. We wouldn't know any of the people there. You may be able to get information from the Post Office in Kilrush or from the "Clare Champion," the newspaper II for County Clare. We have heard that there are some Shalloos living in West Clare. I notice in the phone book that there is a Laurence Shalloo living in Cahermore, Kilshanny, West Clare. I hope this iformation may help you.
    Please remember us to Katherine McCarthy when you see her and tell her that my son John F. and wife Noreen have moved from Kilmore Broadford to Moycullen (?spelling) in Galway, quite near the City of Galway.
    Wishing you all the best. Yrs sincerely, Maureen Shalloo.>>

    My next step will be to write to Laurence Shalloo. Mark Wesley included his phone number in his list of Clare County Shalloos:
    Shalloo, Laurence (065) 7 13 70 Caheramore, Kilshanny .

    Best wishes,

    Ken

    On 6/3/99 I also wrote to:
    C. Shalloo, 39 Marian estate, Carrigaholt rd., Kilkee, Co.Clare, IRELAND

    October 10, 1999:
    Laurence (Larry) called me while we were in Oregon last week. I returned his call-dial: 011-353-65-70-1 13 70. He said he had just sent a letter to me. He does not know of any relationship to Patrick or Martin Shalloo. Cooreclare is about 20 miles distant. Has no NJ relatives but one in Boston. He says that there were 4 bishops named Shalloo in the 1600's in County Cork. Also there is a Judge named Shalloo in the USA. Otherwise could not be of help.

    Re: [CLARE] SHALLOO - Telephone number
    Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:18:54 +0100
    From: "Declan Barron"
    To: "Ken Schneider"
    Hi,
    The number is 065- 7071370. Drumeliky is in the parish of Clooney, Barony of Corcomroe.
    In Griffiths Valuation of circa 1855 there was a Denis Shallow in Carrownaclough in Clooney parish.
    Declan

    Griffiths Valuation of 1850 approx. Co.Clare
    1 Shallae
    1 Shalley
    1 Shalloe
    14 Shalloo
    2 Shallow
    2 Shallue
    6 Shally
    3 Shalon
    1 Shaloo
    Kilfarboy ( Miltown parish) ;
    Shallae Darby, Drummin (townland)
    Shallue James, Breaffy,North : Miltown Malbay : Freagh rd.

    Obtained 2/00 from Web site of Clare Library by Ken Schneider:
    http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/griffiths/griffithss1.htm

    **********Griffith's Valuation 1855

    ***********Sage to Shallue

    Surname****Forename**** Townland, Town, Street***********Parish*****************Union

    Shalloe Thomas Cornfield Kilchreest Killadysert

    Shalloo Cornelius Aharinaghbeg Killokennedy Limerick

    Shalloo Denis Baunkyle: Corrofin Town: High St Killinaboy Corrofin

    Shalloo Denis Laghtagoona Killinaboy Corrofin

    Shalloo John Kilbane Killokennedy Limerick

    Shalloo John Teerovannan Killuran Tulla

    Shalloo Mary Knockatloe Clonlea Tulla

    Shalloo Michael Leitrim Killokennedy Limerick

    Shalloo Patrick Aharinaghbeg Killokennedy Limerick

    Shalloo Patrick Ballycasey Beg Drumline Ennis

    Shalloo Patrick Cloonadrum Kilmurry Kilrush

    Shalloo Patrick Leitrim Killokennedy Limerick

    Shalloo Sinon Gower, North Kilmacduane Kilrush

    Shalloo Sinon Gower, South Kilmacduane Kilrush

    Shalloo Thomas Ballycally Kilconry Ennis

    Shallow Denis Carrownaclogh Clooney Ennistimon

    Shallow Michael Kilrush: Kilrush Town: Tan Yard Lane Kilrush Kilrush

    Shallue James Breaffy, North: Miltown Malbay: Freagh Road Kilfarboy Ennistimon

    Shallue William Dough: Kilkee Town: Church Road Kilfearagh Kilrush



    Posted by Jean Rice on Wed, 15 Dec 1999, in response to Landowners, circa 1870s, posted by Jean Rice on Sat, 31 Jul 1999

    Per genealogy library reference book, the following individuals owned one or more acres in Co. Clare, Ireland, the latter part of the 1870s. Note, an unusual first or middle name may be the surname of a related family.

    92. Michael Shalloo, address Knockatloe, O'Callaghan's Mills, Co. Clare, owned 130 acres.

    Kilmurry Ibrickane, now Parish of MullaghQuilty
    Date: T ue, 05 Dec 2000 10:31:20 +0000
    From: "Antoinette OBrien"
    To: Ken and Mary Lou Schneider

    Dear Mr. Schneider,

    Your enquiry re your Clare ancestry has been forwarded to us by Sharon Immersi. Here at at the Clare Heritage Centre we offer a professional service to persons wishing to trace their Clare roots. Towards this, we as a voluntary organised, non-profit making group, have over the past number of years indexed all the available Parish Registers for the 47 Clare parishes. We now hold data on just over 500,000 people who were born in this county during the last century. The age and conditin of these records vary from parish to parish, with some of our records dating back to as early as 1802. However, as Civil Recording of Births, Marriages and Deaths does not begin until 1864, these Parish Records remain the main source of Genealogical Data for the 19th century in Ireland. In addition to the Parish Registers we
    hold the various Land Records (1824 & 1855), Civil Register of Marriages and Deaths, Census Returns, Maps, Histories of the different parishes etc.

    Dromeliky (Drumellihy) is a townland situated in what is to-day know as the ecclesiastical Parish of Cooraclare - the church registers for this Parish which we have indexed here at the Centre commence in 1854.

    Subject:
    Re: Fw: Kilmurry Ibrickane, now Parish of MullaghQuilty
    Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:08:36 +0000
    From: Maureen Comber
    Organization: Netscape Online member
    To: kschneider@att.net

    Hello Ken and Mary Lou,
    Kilmurry Ibrickane and Kilmacduane are adjoining parishes. It would have been closer and more natural for the child to have been baptised in Cooraclare, but at the same time, both Quilty and Mullagh are only 6 or 7 miles from Drumellihy. Could the child's mother been from that parish? Just a thought.
    Maureen.
    PS Have you seen the Parish/townland maps on our site?

    From Clare Heritage Center (see hard copy of book in Ken Schneider's possession as of 2001) 23 April 2001...All the children of Martin and Brigit Halloran were baptised in ... the Eccliastical Parish of Mullagh/Quilty which at one time comprised the old Civil Parish of Kilmurry Ibrickane. At their births/baptisms the priest indicated that the family resided at Craggaknock...(also in the old Civil Parish of Kilmurry Ibrickane (Mullagh/Quilty))...


    November 2002 e-mail from kareno-do@breathemail.net
    I have been looking on the internet for family history and found you website and was wondering if you know if my father is of the Shalloo family on your site, his name was Sean Francis Shalloo born in Kilrush, Co. Clare in January 1936 he was the son of Martin and Mary Shalloo of the same place. I would be pleased to hear from you.
    Karen

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    Note by Ken Schneider, January 2, 2006:
    About Shalloo name origins, from http://www.hoganstand.com/general/Identity/lists/s.htm

    Shalvey, Shalloo
    Originated in Co. Cork and derived from the Irish meaning ‘having possessions’. Shally and Shallow are two of ten variations of the name, with Shalloo being the form found in Co. Clare. It some cases it has been substituted by the English name Shelley.

    = = = = =
    From: http://www.shelvey.com/origin.htm

    The family name Shelvey is of Irish origin of the Gaelic language. It is an anglicization of the Gaelic "O Sealbhaigh indicating a "descendent of Sealbhaigh," an ancient first name derived from the word "selbhach" meaning "having many possessions, referring to an individual of wealth and influence." It is classified as being a personal name origin and derived its origins from the given name of one of the parents of its initial bearer. The name is also spelt SHALVEY, O' SHALVEY, SHALLY, SHALLOO, SHALLOW, SHEILY, SHELLEY and SHELLE. At first, the surname was formed by prefixing 'Mac' to the father's Christian name or 'O' to that of a grandfather or even an earlier ancestor. The name of O' Sealbhaigh was recorded in records as far back as The Annals of the Four Masters in 1140 where the death of Domhnall O' Sealbhaigh is recorded. In 1182 one Augushine O' Sealbhaigh was appointed Bishop of Waterford. This family also had five medieval bishops of York, all O' Sealbhaighs. In Leibrim there is one James Shelvey born in 1817 to a Timothy Shelvey and Marrella Shields.

    = = = = =
    Here is an odd one from a dictionary of Royal Navy slang:

    http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.3823

    Jack Shalloo: Old naval name for a boaster, or braggart. As an epithet applied to a ship it denotes slackness.

    = = = = =




    Father: Patrick SHALLOO b: 1810 in COUNTY CLARE, IRELAND
    Mother: Bridget KELLY b: in COUNTY CLARE, IRELAND

    Marriage 1 Bridget HOLLORAN b: ABT 1840 in COUNTY CLARE, IRELAND
    • Married: in Old Civil Parish of Kilmurry Ibrickane (now Parish of MullaghQuilty, COUNTY CLARE, IRELAND
    Children
    1. Has Children Bridget SHALLOO b: in IRELAND
    2. Has Children John SHALLOO b: ABT 14 NOV 1860 in Kilmurry Ibrickane (now Parish of MullaghQuilty),, County Clare, Ireland
    3. Has No Children Mary SHALLOO b: ABT 2 MAR 1862
    4. Has No Children Mary SHALLOO b: ABT 28 JAN 1866 in Kilmurry Ibrickane (now Parish of MullaghQuilty),, County Clare, Ireland
    5. Has Children Margaret Cecilia SHALLOO b: ABT 19 OCT 1867 in Kilmurry Ibrickane (now Parish of MullaghQuilty),, County Clare, Ireland
    6. Has Children Elanor Cecilia SHALLOO b: 9 JAN 1870 in DROMELIKY, COORECL.., COUNTY CLARE, IRELAND
    7. Has No Children Honora SHALLOO b: ABT 20 APR 1871 in Kilmurry Ibrickane (now Parish of MullaghQuilty),, County Clare, Ireland
    8. Has No Children Catherine SHALLOO b: ABT 23 FEB 1873 in Kilmurry Ibrickane (now Parish of MullaghQuilty),, County Clare, Ireland
    9. Has No Children Winifred SHALLOO b: ABT 12 NOV 1874 in Kilmurry Ibrickane (now Parish of MullaghQuilty),, County Clare, Ireland
    10. Has Children Elizabeth SHALLOO b: ABT 1 MAR 1877 in Kilmurry Ibrickane (now Parish of MullaghQuilty),, County Clare, Ireland
    11. Has No Children Ann SHALLOO b: ABT 1881 in Kilmurry Ibrickane (now Parish of MullaghQuilty),, County Clare, Ireland

    Sources:
    1. Title: Clare Heritage Centre letter to William C. Saltzer dated 14 July 1995 w/ copies of record

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