ID: I813
Name: William WEATHERFORD
Nickname: Red Eagle
_AKA: Red /Eagle/
Suffix: Sr.
Title: Sr.
Sex: M
Birth: 1780 in Hickory Ground, Coosawda, Creek Nation
_RIN: 152 1
Census:
_ALT_BIRTH: Y 1800 , Montgomery, NC
Death: 9 MAR 1824 in , Monroe, AL
_RIN: 152 1
_RIN: 164 2
Burial: David Tate plantation, Baldwin, AL
_UID: 2631F4E70824D344A9234CF285F2E241198E
Note: <From Among the Creeks site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmamcrk4/index.html> William Weatherford, or Lamochattee -- Red Eagle, born about 1781. Married 1st-Mary Moniac. Married 2nd-Sopathe Thlanie. Married 3rd- Mary Stiggins. William Weatherford died 1824. War name: Hopnicafutsahia -- Straight Talker or Truth Teller Best known as Lamochattee or Red Eagle Leader of the Creeks. Deemed "the architect of the Massacre at Fort Mims". See the letter his grandson Charles Weatherford, Jr. wrote about William. Nephew of Alexander McGillivray and by marriage, nephew of LeClerc Milfort; received their wisdom, according to tribal custom-- the role of the uncle was considered far more importart than that of the father. Red Eagle goes on to full participation in the Creek War. More to come on that war. Another massacre --the Kimbell-James Massacre, the Canoe Fight with Sam Dale and his forces against the Red Sticks, the Battle of Holy Ground with Red Eagle mounted on Arrow, his black steed, the Battle of Talladega, to the climactic Battle of Horseshoe Bend where all come together -- General Andrew Jackson's forces, including Davy Crockett and Sam Houston joining with Choctaws and other tribes against the Red Sticks. This ends the war. After the terrible defeat at Horseshoe Bend in 1814, Red Eagle goes to Ft. Jackson (formerly Ft. Toulouse), and surrendered to General Andrew Jackson. Jackson, filled with sympathy and admiration for the noble chief, takes Red Eagle home to Nashville, TN. According to Dr. Marion Elisha Tarvin, William's half brother, David Tate, (Tarvin's grandfather) was the only man in AL who knew where Weatherford was during his stay at the Hermitage. See his speech given to General Jackson at the official surrender at Fort Jackson. William lived out his days as a well-to-do and well-respected planter in Monroe Co., AL.
Woodrow Wallace shares the story of the Red Eagle's demise from Dreisback: The Red Eagle goes on a hunting trip and seeing the white deer among all the brown ones and reads therein his own death, going home from the hunt and dying three days later dreaming of departing hand in hand with Sopoth Thlanie.
From The Muscogees or Creek Indians, from 1519 to 1893; Also an Account of the McGillivray Family and Others of Alabama By Dr. Marion Elisah Tarvin - 1893 http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmamcrk4/crkst1.html#anchor1280778 After finishing with Wm. Weatherford I will end with the McGillivray family, who have married and intermarried into some of the best families, and constitute some of the best citizens in the South. Many of them have made gallant soldiers and creditable citizens. Wm. Weatherford the warrior and Chief, married for his first wife, Polly Moniac, daughter of Wm. Moniac and Polly Colbert; by this marriage he had three children: Charles, William and Polly. After Polly's death he married his cousin Kanoth-Koney, daughter of John Moniac. After her death he married Mary Stiggins, by whom he had five children. Alex. McGillivray Weatherford is the only one of his five children, by his third wife, who is now living, Levitia grew to womanhood and married Dr. Howell; she died and left four children. Weatherford's eldest son, Charles, by his first wife, is still living in the lower part of Monroe Co., Ala. He is now ninety-three years of age. He has a son Charles who married Martha Stoples and has eight children: Sherman, Sidney, Maggie, Loura, Mary, Charles and lone. I have often conversed with this noble and venerable old kinsman. He is a handsome old man with long white flowing beard. I have often heard him tell of the McGillivray family and the war of 1813 and 1814, carried on by Weatherford, of which the family were unhappily divided. His native land was being encroached upon by the whites on all sides; this was the stake to be fought for. He had another reason for fighting against the Americans which was that he would have been charged with cowardice, which he could not brook. Unlike his brother David Tate, he had no education. Col. Hawkins, the Indian Agent who lived long amongst the Creeks said a more truthful man than Weatherford never lived. It seemed as if nature had set her seal upon him in fashioning his form, for it was said you could not look upon him without being impressed with the idea that you were in the presence of no ordinary man. He was as perfect in form as nature ever made a man. As you see, he was of Indian, French, Scotch and English blood. Educated people who conversed with him were surprised to hear with what force and elegance he spoke the English language. He carried on the war from June 1813 to Dec.1814, when he surrendered to Gen. Andrew Jackson at Ft. Jackson, Ala., an account of which is here given in his own words as related to me by William Sizemore, Chas. Weatherford, Col. Robt. James of Clarke County, and Wm. Hollinger. I also refer you to Pickett's history of Ala. and to the Historical Society at Tuscaloosa, Ala. After he had captured and destroyed Ft. Mims and its inmates, (except the17 who made their escape) he fought Gen. Jackson at E. Mukfau, Hilibia Holy Ground, Horse Shoe, and in various other battles, in which he (Weatherford) distinguished himself. He fought as long as there was hope of success. After the battle of the Horse Shoe, when one half of his warriors lay stretched in death upon the gory field, and the women and children of his tribe were starving and hiding in the forest, when ruin and want spread throughout the land, he determined to make a sacrifice of himself In order to save the remnant of his tribe. This greater hero than ancient or modern times ever produced, went boldly forward to give his life to mitigate the sufferings of his people. Mounted on the noble steed that had carried him through all the perils of war, he started for Ft. Jackson. As he approached the Fort he met some officers and privates near the Fort who directed him to Jackson's headquarters. He rode up to Jacksons tent, in front of which stood Col. Hawkins, the Indian Agent, reading a newspaper. As Hawkins raised his head and saw Weatherford, he exclaimed in startled surprise, "By Heaven here Is Weatherford", Gen. Jackson stepped out quickly and, after looking sharply at Weatherford, exclaimed, "And what do you come here for, Sir?" Weatherford said, "I come to surrender myself to you. You can kill me if you wish to do so. I have fought you as long as I could, and did you all the harm I could, and had I warriors I would still fight you but you have destroyed them, I can fight no longer I come to ask for peace, not for myself, but for my people--the women and children who are starving in the forest, without shelter. If you think I deserve death you can take my life; I am a Creek warrior and not afraid to die. My talk is ended." At the conclusion of these words, many who had surrounded him, said, "Kill him, kill him, kill him". Gen. Jackson commanded silence and said in an emphatic tone, "Any man who would kill as brave a man as this, would rob the dead." He then invited Weatherford to alight, and drank a glass of brandy with him, and entered into cheerful conversation under his hospitable marquee, Weatherford took no further part in the war except to Influence his warriors to surrender. He went to his former residence on the Little River, but soon had to leave it as his life was constantly in danger. Gen. Jackson sent him to a secret place of safety, and remained there several months. His half brother, David Tate, (The writer's Grand-father) was the only man in Ala. who knew where Weatherford was during his stay at the Hermitage. He afterwards returned to the lower part of Monroe Co., Ala, where he owned a fine plantation and large number of slaves. He was generous and kind to all, was highly esteemed and respected by every one for his strict Integrity and manly qualities. He died in 1824 and sleeps by his mother, Sehoy, in the northern part of Baldwin County, Ala., near the residence of Col J. D. Driesbach, who married his half niece, Josephine Tate, (my aunt) both of whom are now living, upon the same spot where he made his speech to his warriors on the night before he attacked Ft. Mims, on the day following Aug, 30th, 1813. Though fierce his deeds; and rad his hand, he battled for his native land.
MILITARY: Creek Wars. Leader of the Creeks. 1813-1814.
CENSUS: 1800 Montgomery Co, NC - Wm Weatherford, 3 males under 10, 1 male 26 to 44; 2 females under 10, 1 between 10 to 15, one 26 to 44.
GRAVE: Sehoy McGillivary III was buried on David Tate's "brickyard plantation" along with two of her sons William "Red Eagle", John "Jack", a daughter, and an adopted child. Directions in Balwin Co, AL. Near town of Tensaw. Take AL state 59 north from Little River to Tensaw. Turn west on County 84 towards Dixie Landing. 2.5 miles on the left (at a sign) turn left on a dirt road. Go about 1.5 miles to the Tate Chapel. Follow the road left a few hundred yards to the graves. There are head stones for William and Sehoy, but no one else.
Ft Mims site is off AL state 59 near Little River, Balwin Co, AL. Take a left on county 80 and go about 3.5 miles. There are plenty of signs. The fort is gone but there are gravel paths showing the perimeter and interesting signs.
Weatherford's dramatic leap off a cliff at the Holy Grounds is off AL highway 80, near Whitehall. There is a Engr Corp campground there and a sign.
From History of The Mississippi Territory in the War of 1812, pg 45-47 CHARLES WEATHERFORD'S LETTER - MT. PLEASANT, ALA., Oct. 17th 1890. "MR. T. H. BALL, Sir: Your letter of the 2d inst. came to hand yesterday. Sir, your subject has become stale. The name of Billy Weatherford is almost forgotten, superseded by the names of such men as Lee, Jackson, and Grant. With the death of my father, Charles Weatherford, Sr., who is about ninety-five years old, the name of Weatherford will become commonplace. My father is the oldest and only living child of the notorious and so called bloody handed, Billy Weatherford. And I, sir, am the only living child of Charles Weatherford, Sr. Now, sir, you know who and what I am. "My grandfather, Billy Weatherford, died in 1826. I was born in 1834, therefore what I have to say will only be hearsay and from many lips, some prejudiced and some partial. "According to the most authentic information Weatherford did not desire the massacre at Fort Mims. About the middle of the afternoon of that sadly memorable day Weatherford met his half brother, David Tate, about twelve miles above Fort Mims, and told him of the massacre and spoke of it with much regret. He told Tate that he tried to prevent it; but under the excitement his warriors threatened his life if he interfered. Tate did not belong to the hostile party. "Now as to Weatherford's being mounted at the time the engagement began, circumstances prove that he was not. I had an aunt who was a refugee in Fort Mims. I have often heard her say that she saw Billy Weatherford as he came in the gate at full run, at the head of his warriors, jump a pile of logs almost as high as his head. (Weatherford stood six feet two inches). She said, as he sprang over the logs he saw Captain Dixon Bailey who was a bitter enemy, to whom he shouted, 'Dixon Bailey, to-day one or both of us must die.' So I judge by this that he was not mounted at the time of the engagement. But in the evening [afternoon] of that day, when he met Tate, Weatherford was mounted on the veritable black horse. I believe it is a recognized fact that all warriors of note ride either a milk-white or raven black steed. Now, sir, I being a man of peace, and altogether unlike my grand sire, ride an old sorrel mare. "The aunt of whom I have spoken as being a refugee in Fort Mims at the time of the massacre was Mrs. Susan Hatterway (nee Stiggins) who hated Billy Weatherford with a thorough hatred. My aunt's husband was killed early in the fight. She had no children. And when she saw that the fort would be reduced to ashes she took hold of a little white girl, Elizabeth Randon, with one hand, and a negro girl named Lizzie, with the other, and said to them, 'Let us go out and be killed together.' But to her surprise she saw one of the busy and bloody warriors beckon her to him. On approaching she recognized him. It was Iffa Tustunnaga, meaning Dog Warrior. He took her prisoner with the two children. He took them to Pensacola, and gave them over to some of their friends, where they remained until the war closed. When they returned to their homes in Alabama. Soon after the close of the war my aunt married Absalom Sizemore. She died near Mount Pleasant in 1865. "When Elizabeth Randon grew to womanhood she married Algier Newman, and lived many years on the Alabama river just below Fort Claiborne in Monroe county. Excuse me for the digression. "I will get back to my subject by saying the Lucy Cornell's story must have been merely to embellish the story. But it would not have surprised me if he had done so. All great warriors do such things. I believe the name has always been spelled Cornells. "Billy Weatherford was married three times twice under the Indian law. His first wife, my grandmother, was Mary Moniac, originally spelled McNac. She died in 1804 at Point Thloly, which is in Lowndes county. His second wife was Sapoth Thlanie. I never heard where or when she died. His third and last wife was Mary Stiggins. They were married under the white law in 1817. She died near Mount Pleasant, Monroe county, 1832. "I had an anecdote told me once by the mother of the late Colonel William Boyles, of Mobile, which is the only one that I have never seen in print. Mrs. Boyles was a widow and lived near Billy Weatherford in Monroe County. She kept what was called at that time a wayside tavern. Weatherford, in going to and from his plantation, passed right by her door. They were warm friends, and she frequently invited him to eat a meal with her. On this particular day she invited him to eat dinner. Just before the meal was ready four strangers rode up and asked for dinner. All were soon seated at table, and discussion commenced, in the course of which the strangers wanted to know where that bloody-handed savage, Billy Weatherford, lived. Mrs. Boyles said Weatherford's eyes sparkled. She shook her head at him to say nothing. The talk went on. Three of the strangers expressed a wish to meet Weatherford, assuring Mrs. Boyles they would kill the red-skinned, bloody-handed savage on sight. (Weatherford was fair, with light brown hair and mild black eves.) Dinner being over, the gentlemen walked out on the gallery. To the surprise of the strangers, the man with whom they had sat at dinner stepped into the midst of the crowd and said: 'Some of you gentlemen expressed a wish while at dinner to meet Billy Weatherford. Gentlemen, I am Billy Weatherford, at your service.' But, Mrs. Boyles said, she never saw men more frightened than were the three belligerently disposed gentlemen. Not one of the trio was entitled to a raven black or milk white steed. They quailed under the glance of the Red Eagle's eye. The fourth gentleman, who had said but little, stepped forward and shook hands with Weatherford, and introduced himself as Colonel David Panthon. "Exit. "Charles Weatherford."
_RIN: 152 1 3 4
_RIN: 842 5
Change Date: 30 DEC 2007 at 13:21:21
Father: Charles WEATHERFORD b: ABT 1752 in Probably, VA
Mother: Sehoy III b: 1759 in Fort Toulouse, Taskigi, Creek Nation
Marriage 1
Mary MONIAC b: ABT 1780 in Creek Nation
- Married:
ABT 1795
in Creek Nation 1
Children
Charles WEATHERFORD b: 1795 in , Montgomery, AL Elizabeth WEATHERFORD b: ABT 1804 in Creek Nation Marriage 2
Sofath Kaney MONIAC b: ABT 1797 in Creek Nation
- Married:
1813
in Creek Nation 1
Children
William E. WEATHERFORD b: 25 DEC 1813 in , Monroe, Creek Nation Marriage 3
Mary STIGGINS b: 1783 in Roanoke River, VA
Children
Alexander McGillivray WEATHERFORD b: 1820 in , Mobile, AL Major WEATHERFORD b: ABT 1822 in AL Mary Levitia WEATHERFORD b: 1823 in Little River, AL John Stiggins WEATHERFORD b: 1801 in AL George Washington WEATHERFORD b: ABT 1821 in , Monroe, AL Sources:
- Title: World Family Tree Vol. 5, Tree 3729 - Waldrip, Chambers, Huff of TX, SC
Publication: Released August 22, 1996 Abbrev: World Family Tree Vol. 5, Tree 3729 - Waldrip, Chambers, Huff of TX, SC Note: Large source with link to Weatherford. Page: Tree #3729 Text: Date of Import: Aug 23, 1997
- Title: Weatherford, Charles, Jr, 1890
Publication: MT. Pleasant, Ala., Oct. 17th 1890. Abbrev: Weatherford, Charles, Jr, 1890 Text: Listed under Wm Weatherford Quality: 2
- Repository:
Name: Jared Jones Personal Library Title: The Road to Disappearance Author: Angie Debo Publication: Univ of Oklahoma Press, 1941, 1967 Abbrev: The Road to Disappearance Page: P79 Note: Angie Debo, The Road to Disappearance, (Univ of Oklahoma Press, 1941, 1967), P79 Text: The Red Sticks made their first attach on Aug 30, 1813, when Weatherford and several hundred followers fedd on Ft. Mims. .. 367 whites & Negros were killed...
- Repository:
Name: Jared Jones Personal Library Title: The Road to Disappearance Author: Angie Debo Publication: Univ of Oklahoma Press, 1941, 1967 Abbrev: The Road to Disappearance Page: P82 Text: By July (1814) ..hunderds of Red Sticks had surrendered. (Red Eagle surrenders to Andrew Jackson)... He becomes a prosperious plantation owner in Alabama and dies peacefully in 1824.
- Repository:
Name: Jared Jones Personal Library Title: History of Alabama Author: James Albert Pickett Abbrev: Pickett Publication: 1851, Republished in 1962 by Birmingham Book and Magazine Co. Abbrev: History of Alabama Text: Stories about Chs Weatherford, William Weatherford, Sehoy, David Tate, Alexander McGillivay
- Title: Weatherford, Charles, Jr, 1890
Publication: MT. Pleasant, Ala., Oct. 17th 1890. Abbrev: Weatherford, Charles, Jr, 1890 Text: Listed under Wm Weatherford
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