James D. Elder and family were found in Lincoln and Madison Counties in Kentucky over in the eastern part of the state. My line of Elder's were in Livingston, Caldwell and Crittenden Counties in the western part of the state.I have made in my online file two different James Elder's, one with the middle intial of "D" yours and one with the middle name of "Dickey" in my line. From everything I have found so far it is looking more and more like there are really two different James D. both born about the same time period. I will keep you posted if I find anything else.Vickie Beard ThompsonPO Box 177Morgan, UT 84050801-829-4267801-388-5685James Baxter Elder's marriage license gave birthplace of parents Frank Morris 1937 correspondence with Aunt Irene gives death date or from a family bible. 1850 census says schoolteacher in Adair Co. and wife N.E., these initials fairly clear. Shows her born in 1820. 1870 ppty-2000,Pers. ppt $500 and occupation as farmer. Shows older couple living on place in different house. Area where he came from was Lincoln Co. prior to 1798, then Livingston Co. until about 1840 when it was divided into several counties, including Crittenden for the area he had been in. Several Elder brothers came from S. Carolina to this area in 1795. They had left S.C. in late 1794, wintered in Tn. then migrated to what is now Moxley's landing N. of Paducah. This according to Livingston Co. History from 1796 to 1990. The father of these brothers was George or William and he died in the Rev. War. Brothers James, Thos., Wm. John, Alexander and Robert came to Ky. Samuel remained in S.C. Thelma Phillips shows him as the 6th child of George and Nancy Agnes Elder and married to Margaret Dodd. Middle name from Frank Beard, another descendent of George and Nancy. Thelma Phillips shows him born in Caldwell Co.

Frank Beard shows George or Wm Elder dying in S.C. abt 1780 to 86 but cause not shown. He shows brothers William, John, James coming to Ky. to live and David dying enroute. He cites family Bible of John C.Elder.
Frank Beard shows James Dickey Elder baptized as an infant in Bethany Presby Church in Marion, Ky. in 1816. Dismissed from church in 1838 Apparently moved to what his brother Samuel Henry called northern Ky.prior to lawsuit filed by Samuel about1867.
1860 shows him in Oldham Co. with 7 children. Shows he was a famer with $2900 real estate and $550 personal property. Says he was b Va.! George was a charter member of the Bethany Presb. Church of Marion, Ky.
1803. Lyndell Storey says he was a preacher before coming to Oldham Co.
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ID: I239
Name: James Dickey ELDER
Sex: M
Birth: 1815 in ,Livingston,KY
IDNO:
Note: ! Infant baptism in Bethany Presb. Church of Marion, Ky. 1816. Dismissed-1838.
Change Date: 13 JUN 1999 at 19:47:23

Father: George ELDER b: 20 NOV 1772 in ,Spartanburg,SC
Mother: Nancy Agnes HENRY b: 25 SEP 1785 in ,Pendleton,SC
Nancy Agnes HENRY (Samuel, James) was born on 25 Sep 1785 in , Pendleton, South Carolina. She died on 8 May 1866 in , Crittenden, Kentucky and was buried in May 1866 in Old Marion Cem., Crittenden, Kentucky.

All the girls listed for Samuel Henry in 1800 were listed as being under the age of 10 years. Nancy would have
been 15 years old in 1800.

Vickie Beard Thompson, Frank's daughter, says James Dickey was a minister of the gospel and never married according to an old Family Bible.

A lady by the name of Velanie Clayton in Marion, Kentucky had some of the old bibles at one time. I heard she died a couple of years ago. My father had visited with her a few times and got information from her. The bible that mentioned James Dickey Elder belonged to George Washington Elder and his wife Mary Ann Leach Elder. The notation said that James Dickey Elder was a minister of the gospel and never married. I had never looked further for him as he must have left Crittenden and Livingston county early and I did not try to find him.
I was born in Crittenden County so I know the area very well. I go home every year for two weeks and look for more info. A lot of the Elders like George and Nancy were buried at the Old Marion Cemetery. They had very nice markers at one time but this year when I was home the markers were gone. There were very few markers left in the cemetery. It has been neglected for sometime and only gets mowed every so often.
James Dickey's brother Samuel Henry was my 3rd great-grandfather.
If I can answer any other questions for you just let me know.
Merry Christmas,
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Nancy & J.B.,I have found some more things on Dodd Elder and family and added in what Nancy had sent and updated my online site. Here is the link: I am beginning to think that James D. Elder could be a son of Robert Elder who was in Lincoln County, Kentucky in 1840. If he is his son he is not related to my line of Elder's those Elder's were from Pennsylvania. Maybe the family bible my Dad had found that said James Dickey Elder was a minister and never married is correct. Also James D. Elder is listed as a school teacher in 1850 and a farmer the rest of the time on the census records and never a minister. What are your thoughts on this matter?Vickie Beard ThompsonPO Box 177Morgan, UT 84050801-829-4267801-388-5685If you can not get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance.-George Bernard Shaw- -------Original Message-------From: Nancy Elder Petersen >Subject: Dodd Edgar ELDER - obituary in Denton Co TXSent: 09 Apr '07 19:42 Hi Folks, Thanks again for posting WorldConnect entry for DODD EDGAR ELDER. This week I received some ELDER obits from Laura Douglas, Denton County Library, Denton, TX.  including:  DODD EDGAR ELDER - Denton Co TX - b. abt 1854 - KY - d. 1936 TX  Denton Record Chronicle, 03/02/1936 (Dodd Edgar ELDER, b. abt 1854) "D.E. ELDER of Pilot Point Dies" Special to Record-Chronicle PILOT POINT, March 2-- D.E. ELDER, 82 resident of Pilot Point 30 years, died Friday night at the home of a daughter, Mrs. O.S. Thomas of Dallas, following a long illness. Funeral services were held at the local Methodist Church, conducted by Rev. E. B. Jackson with burial in the Masonic cemetery. Active pallbearers were fellow Masons: J.E. Selz, R. L. Massey, G. B. Moffitt, C.L. Edwards, J.R. Jones and F.W. Hayden. Masonic rites were in charge of the local lodge, with representatives from the Denton and Tioga groups assisting. ELDER is survived by six children: Mrs. Thomas, Dee ELDER of Pilot Point, Francis ELDER of Trinidad, Clark ELDER of South America, Will ELDER of Cleveland, O., and Mrs. Lillian Bowman of Marfa. He is also survived by two brothers, T. J. ELDER of Decatur and H.D. ELDER of Washington State, and six grandchildren. *****  CARL ELDER - d. 1932 "Former Citizen of Pilot Point Dies" Denton Record Chronicle 02/20/32  Carl ELDER, former resident of Pilot Point, died Friday in Aberdeen, Washington. He had been in bad health for some time. Elder was about 40 years old. Funeral services will be held in Pilot Point, probably Tuesday, but details have not been completed. Surviving Elder in Pilot Point are his father, D.E. Elder, a brother, J.D. Elder and a sister, Mrs. O.S. Thomas. He is also survived by another sister, Mrs. Charles Boman of Marfa, and three other brothers, Clark ELDER, now in Venezuela, Francis ELDER of Trinidad, and Will ELDER of Cleveland, O. Denton Record Chronicle 02/25/1932 Special to Record-Chronicle Pilot Point, Feb. 25-- Funeral services were conducted from the R.J. Beck undertaking parlors Wednesday afternoon for Carl ELDER, oldest son of Ed [Edgar] ELDER, who died Thursday in Washington. Services were in charge of Rev. N.W. Oliver. The body arrived in Pilot Point Wednesday morning. Carl Elder was 50 years and 24 days old. He is survived by his father, and the following brothers and sisters: Will ELDER of Chicago, Clark ELDER of Venezuela. Dee ELDER of Pilot Point, Mrs. Oliver Thomas of Pilot Point and Mrs. Bowman of Marfa. Pallbearers were F.W. Hayden, Donald Wilson, Earl Seliz, Joe B. Burks, George Fritz and Earl Ross of Denton.  WWI DRAFT card (Ancestry.com) Name: Carl Elder City: Aberdeen County: Grays Harbor State: Washington Birth Date: 24 Jan 1882 Race: White Roll: 1991572 DraftBoard: 2 Occ: Coats-Fordney Logging Company, Aberdeen, WA Search: Coats-Fordney Logging Company found: Summary of Logging Railroad in or near Grays Harborhttp://www.cs.utk.edu/~davison/logging.html>  1910 Name: Edger D Elder Age in 1910: 57 Estimated birth year: abt 1853 Birthplace: Kentucky Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Kentucky Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky Spouse's name: Ida Home in 1910: Pilot Point, Denton, Texas Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Edger D Elder 57 Ida Elder 49 Olive E Elder 22 James D Elder 18 Frank E Elder 15 John C Elder 13 Lillian M Elder 9 Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Pilot Point, Denton, Texas; Roll: T624_1546; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 86; Image: 420.  **** 1920 Name: Dod C Elder [Dodd Edgar ELDER, b 1866 MO] or 1853 KY Home in 1920: Pilot Point, Denton, Texas Age: 54 years Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Birthplace: Missouri Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's name: Ida Father's Birth Place: Missouri Mother's Birth Place: Kentucky Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Home owned: Own Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Household Members: Name Age Dod C Elder 54 Ida Elder 54 Lillian M Elder 19 Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Pilot Point, Denton, Texas; Roll: T625_1795; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 58; Image: 986.  1930 Name: Dodd E Elder Home in 1930: Pilot Point, Denton, Texas Age: 76 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Birthplace: Kentucky Relation to Head of House: Head Race: White Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Pilot Point, Denton, Texas; Roll: 2323; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 10; Image: 861.0. Nancy Elder Petersen 7808 NE 51st St, Apt. 139, Vancouver, WA 98662 Host, ELDER DNA projecthttp://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder>

Nancy & J.B.,I have found some more things on Dodd Elder and family and added in what Nancy had sent and updated my online site. Here is the link: I am beginning to think that James D. Elder could be a son of Robert Elder who was in Lincoln County, Kentucky in 1840. If he is his son he is not related to my line of Elder's those Elder's were from Pennsylvania. Maybe the family bible my Dad had found that said James Dickey Elder was a minister and never married is correct. Also James D. Elder is listed as a school teacher in 1850 and a farmer the rest of the time on the census records and never a minister. What are your thoughts on this matter?Vickie Beard ThompsonPO Box 177Morgan, UT 84050801-829-4267801-388-5685

• Married: 11 Apr 1840 in , Lincoln, Ky.

1. John W. ELDER b: Dec 1842 in ,Adair,Ky.
2. Mary Ellen ELDER b: ABT 1845 in ,Adair,Ky.
3. George C. ELDER b: ABT 1847 in Christiansburg,Adair , Ky.
4. James Baxter ELDER b: 14 Oct 1849 in , Clinton, Ky.
5. Dodd Edgar ELDER b: 30 Jul 1853 in , Oldham, Ky.
6. Margaret Anetta ELDER b: 14 Jul 1855 in ,Oldham,Ky.
7. Thomas J. ELDER b: 10 Feb 1857 in ,Oldham , Ky.
8. Henry W. ELDER b: ABT 1863 in , Oldham, Ky.