The parents of Elisabeth "Ailsey" Katrina Otterbach, the wife of John Kemper, are Herman Otterbach and Elizabeth Heimbach. Elisabeth's birthdate is 16 Apr 1697, taken from the church books at Siegen by BC Holtzclaw. Herman and Elizabeth Otterbach traveled to Virginia with their daughters, but died soon after arriving as they don't appear on any of the records for Naturalization, or anything else. I'm a descendant of another of their daughters, Anna Margreth Otterbach, the wife of Jacob Holtzclaw. They, too, emigrated in 1714.The home of the Otterbachs is still standing, and lived in, in Trupbach! This is the home of all of the girls born to Herman and Elizabeth. I'm glad to share any information with you!Barb Price
Glenda,Caty Utterback married, 30 Aug 1800, John Corder, in Fauquier Co., VA. Herbrother, Jacob Utterback, signed the bond for her marriage. She is thedaughter of Henry (Johann Henrich)Utterback, b. 16 Jan 1714 in Trupbach, Germanyand probably a child of his second marriage to Anna ______. Thisinformation comes from BC Holtzclaw's book, "Ancestry and Descendants of theNassau-Siegen Immigrants to Virginia 1714-1750 and is available thru the GermannaFoundation.BC surmises that the first wife of Henry Utterback may be a sister of JohnButton, Henry had a land grant for 198 acres in Culpeper Co. next to JohnButton in 1751. Also of note in the Button Family section of the same book isthe information about John Button's wife, Susannah Hopper, the daughter ofThomas Hopper and Mary Ann George. Mary Ann's father, William George, mentionshis youngest daughter, Elizabeth Corder, in his will dated 4 April 1781,probated in Culpeper Co.(Will Book C, pg. 33 per BC).Henry Utterback is the son of Johannes Otterbach, b. 1659 in Trupbach,Germany, and Gertrud Schneider, being married 24 April 1704 in Trupbach. Johannesis the brother of my ancestor, Hermann Otterbach, so we are cousins. I havemany photos of Trupbach and at least one Otterbach home, the home ofHermann, that I would be glad to share with you.Barb Price RockCatt@aol.com
I am related to Herman utterback, the 1714 immigrant. He was an Uncle of my ancestor Johann Henrich Utterback who came in 1734 to Germantown with a sister and her family and a nephew, same name. He is referred to as Henry of fauquier. Hermann and his wife and 2 sons died before 1719. There were daughters also who married other immigrants of 1714. Carl and Faye Foster" He may have come from house in Trupbach that we saw in 1999. carrier or carter in Germany. He transported and traded goods. an important middleman for the transport of iron products mfg in Nassau-Siegen region.`Had a grandson Harman present at the surrender of Cornwallis to Gen. Washington, perhaps. This from Mayflower Quarterly, August, 1990.
Name: Hermann OTTERBACH
Sex: M
Birth: ABT. 1664
Note: Hermann Otterbach emigrated to America to join at least two of his daughters (our ancestor Margreth who married Hans Jacob Holtzclaw and Elisabeth Cathrina who married John Kemper; both couples emigrated to America at the same time.) The source says this happened not long after 1714, a year or two after his sons-in-law made the trip. In America, he was usually known as Herman Utterback.

Marriage 1 Elizabeth HEIMBACH
Married: 11 AUG 1685 in Siegen, Nassau-Siegen, Germany
Children
Anna Margaret OTTERBACH b: 1686 in Siegen, Germany
Ellsbeth OTTERBACH b: 1689
Johann Phillipp OTTERBACH b: 22 MAR 1691/92
Johann Jacob OTTERBACH b: 23 NOV 1695
Elisabeth Cathrina OTTERBACH b: 19 APR 1697
Maria Cathrina OTTERBACH b: 5 NOV 1699
Johannes OTTERBACH b: 15 APR 1702
Anna Cathrina OTTERBACH b: 2 JAN 1704/05

The eleven hundred and thirty-fourth note in a series on the Germanna Colonies

Another large family, also from Trupbach, was the Otterbachs. There is no
documentary evidence in Virginia that this family did, in fact, make the
trip. But there is excellent circumstantial evidence that this is the case
and we might review some of the principal points.

The family disappears from the church and civil records in Germany about
1714. In the book, "Ortgeschichte Trupbach" by Tröps and Bohn, the house
Welmes was inhabited by Hermannus Otterbach in 1707. They say about the
family that (it) "ausgewandert nach Virginia USA." The house was taken over
(in 1712) by Johann Jacob Schneider who had married Maria Cath. Heide.
Again, as in the last note, I do not understand why they use the date 1712.

The names of the daughters in the family seem to appear as wives in
Virginia. The family was related to some of the people who did go to
Virginia. A family(ies) is needed to add to the known Virginia immigrants
to come to the right count. The Otterbach family would fulfill that need
correctly.

Hermann Otterbach was a "Fuhrleute" which is a wagoner or a person who
carted goods (or people?) from one location to another. As such, he would
have been very sensitive to the economic conditions. If economic life were
depressed, his work would be reduced. (In the emigrating group, there was
another man who was the son of a Fuhrman and that was John Hofmann.)

Hermann Otterbach had married Elisabeth Heimbach and they had these
children: John Philip (21), John (11), Elizabeth (24), Alice Catherine
(16), Mary Catherine (14), Anna Catherine (8). It is necessary to say that
the father and the two sons died before the move to Germantown in Virginia
(from Germanna) because no land was distributed to a male
Otterbach/Utterback at Germantown. This is the weakest point in the
"Utterback argument" as it requires the death of three individuals.

Again, much like the Fischbachs, it would seem that the parents were
motivated by finding a better life for the sons and daughters. It was a
major undertaking for eight people to uproot their life in Trupbach and to
go to America. One wonders if the prospects in and around Trupbach for
finding husbands for the daughters and jobs for the sons were poor. Philip
was old enough to be looking for a job and a wife. Elizabeth was old enough
to be thinking about marriage.

On the German photo page, look at the drawing of the village of Trupbach
and locate the Chapel School in the center. You can identify the school by
the picture of it on the photo page also. In the drawing, the first
building directly or straight to the right of the Chapel School should be
the Otterbach home. In 1713, the school was not there as it was built in 1750.

John Blankenbaker

>From LDS film No. 30,940 (Culpeper Co., VA Grantor Indexes 1769-1875, Grantor K-Z)Otterback, Henry & wife to Otterbach, Jos. - DB H-363 Gift, 8-22-1776, Rec. 2-17-1776Submitted byE.W.Wallacesouthern California

Herman Otterbach of Trupbach was a Fuhrmann when his son Philipp was christened in 1692. My German to English dictionary says that this means "carterer" or "wagoner." I would take it that this would be a person who transported goods. He might have been carrying oak bark to the tannery or wood to the place where charcoal was made. This later item would have been the biggest freighting job for fifty pounds of wood were needed to smelt one pound of iron. B. C. Holtzclaw wanted to make Herman Otterbach into a dealer or middleman of iron products but I believe this is saying something that is not implied by the word "Fuhrmann." In any case, there is nothing to suggest that Otterbach was a miner. Also, he lived in a village, Trupbach, which was very agricultural, and not iron oriented.This from John Blankenbaker.

While we believe that the Johann Hermann Otterbach family came in 1714(other than as wives in another family) we have no proof. It appears thatthe Otterbach family members with the name Otterbach died at Germanna. Whenthe move to Germantown came about, there were no Otterbachs to move hencethere was no land assigned to them. All of the Otterbach descendants withthe name Otterbach came from a latter immigrant. This man had land in theLittle Fork and does show up there in the land patents.John Blankenbaker
From Marc Wheat on the Germanna website:
German collections of records imporant to the Germanna story are hidden across the land. Germanna Foundation researchers report on an important discovery!
Germanna Foundation Trustee and Secretary Barbara Gregory Fishback tells how 300-year-old documents important to colonial Virginia researchers were discovered in Germany by Germanna Foundation researchers:
"In preparation for the 2011 Germanna FoundationTrip to Germany, [Germanna Foundation First Vice President ] Dr. Katharine Brown and I made plans to conduct research at the Stadtarchiv Siegen, the Siegen City Archives. We compiled a list of documents that we wished to secure, which included leave permissions (or manumissions) for each head of household of the emigrants living in the Siegerland. The holdings in Siegen that were of interest to us were photocopies of the originals that are on deposit in the state archives in Munster.
"Imagine our surprise when we opened the records from 1711-1715 to find that the last person who had signed up to search them was Emil Flender more than 50 years ago! Emil Flender conducted extensive research in Germany for Dr. B. C. Holtzclaw when he was preparing his work Ancestry and Descendants of the Nassau-Siegen Immigrants to Virginia (Germanna Record No. 5). Emil Flender was the brother of Ernst Flender, the Siegen native and New York banker who was instrumental in acquiring part of the original Germanna tract in 1956 and assisting with the establishment of the Germanna Foundation.
"While searching through the records, we found the permissions for several members of the First Colony, the first of which were Hermannus Otterbach and Philip Fischbach, both of Trupbach, a village just outside Siegen at that time, and now a part of the city. We thought it interesting that these two men, and their families, along with Hans Jacob Richter, who was Philip Fischbach's son in law, had permission to leave because there are no records that have been found for these two older men in Virginia. Also of interest to us was the timing of the permission for Hermannus Otterbach.
"As we know, Johann Justus Albrecht was employed by the George Ritter Company to recruit miners for the company's mining interests in the Colonies, i.e., Pennsylvania, Virginia and the Carolinas. Albrecht went to Siegen to do this and he signed a contract with the pastors of Siegen on 15 August 1711, enlisting their assistance in recruitment. Just twenty-one days later, on 5 September 1711, Hermannus Otterbach applied for permission to leave. In his application he stated that he was going to Prussia, which seemed puzzling. The Archivist in Siegen told me that many people stated Prussia as their destination when attempting to gain permission to leave. We did find evidence of Hermannus Otterbach selling his furniture, and other possessions, over the next two years, probably in preparation for departure to the Colonies.
"Philip Fischbach secured his permission to leave on 31 July 1713, along with Jost Cuntze on the same day. Another permission that is of interest because of its date is the document for Hans Jacob Holzklau, dated 17 July 1713, just five days after Pastor Haeger "moved this early morning from here [Oberfischbach]," according to the letter that was sent to the Royal Synod from Rev. Friedrich Georg Knabenschuh on 12 July 1713.
"We also found permission for Johannes Hofmann on 28 February 1713, but we did not find documents for the Rev. Henry Haeger; Peter Heide/Hitt; Johannes Kemper; Johann Jost Merten/Martin; Johannes Spielmann/Spilman or Johann Henrich Weber/Weaver. There was no record of Melchior Brombach requesting permission to leave, but we did find several documents holding his family responsible for debts on property that he left behind. A document concerning this indebtedness, dated 4 December 1713, involved Melchior's brother, Caspar Brombach.
"There is so much research that still needs to be conducted on the Germanna Colony, including additional work in Siegen and also in Munster. We are chipping away at it, piece by piece!"
Some of these 18th Century documents in possession of the Germanna Foundation have been published in a booklet for the First Colony Tour at the 55th Germanna Foundation Conference and Reunion, and is available to Germanna Foundation members at http://www.germanna.org/premium_content. Other original documents will be published in article form over the next several months.

• Married: 2 Sep 1679 in Trupbach,Nassau-Siegen , Ger.

1. John Henry OTTERBACK b: 21 Sep 1698 in Trupbach,Nassau-Siegen , Ger.
2. Maria Clare OTTERBACH b: ABT 1696

• Married: 11 Aug 1685 in Siegen, , , Ger.

1. Anna Margaret OTTERBACH b: 1686 in Trupbach, Westphalia, Ger.
2. Elizabeth OTTERBACH b: 1689 in , , , Germany
3. Johann Phillip OTTERBACH b: 22 Mar 1692 in Siegen, , , Ger.
4. Johannes OTTERBACH b: 6 May 1693 in Siegen, , , Ger.
5. Johann Jacob OTTERBACH b: 23 Nov 1695 in Siegen, , , Ger.
6. Alice Catherine OTTERBACH b: ABT 1700
7. Elisabeth Cathrina OTTERBACH b: 16 Apr 1697 in , Trupbach, Ger.
8. Maria Katherina OTTERBACH b: 5 Nov 1699 in ,,,Ger.
9. Anna Catherine OTTERBACH b: 2 Jan 1705