There is another connection in that it is believed that Henry Holtzclaw, second son in the family, married Nancy Harden. Now some members of the Harden family went to southwest Pennsylvania. Were the Thomases and the Hardens acquainted and did the actions of one influence the other?John,I'm a little behind on reading my emails. There are also connections between the Holtzclaw and Hardin families through the Marr family of Fauquier Co.Ann Nancy Hardin Holtzclaw was d/o Mark Hardin and Mary Hogue. Ann's brother Martin "Ruffle Shirt" Hardin d. 1780 Monongahela Co. PA.John Marr, the immigrant, m. 2 Mary Elizabeth Fishback, d/o Philip Fishback and Elizabeth Heimback. Mary Elizabeth gave land to her sons by her first marriage to John Jacob Rector.Deed Abstracts of Prince William County, Virginia 1745-1746/1748-1749Pp. 157-158TO ALL CHRISTIAN PEOPLE to whom these presents shall come I ELIZABETH MARRwidow of the Parish of Hamilton and County of Prince William send Greeting.Know ye that I the said ELIZABETH MARR for the Natural love that I do bearunto my Son HARMON RICTOR Planter I the said ELIZABETH MARR being in perfectmemory have given unto the said HARMON RICTOR his heirs a parcel of landcontaining One hundred acres in the aforesaid County of Prince William and in the GERMAN TOWN it being part of a GRAND PATENT taken up by JOHN FISHBACK, JOHN HUFMAN and JACOB HOLTZCLAW and by them conveyed by a lease for Ninety nine years yet to come to the aforesaid ELIZABETH MARR Widow then ELIZABETH RICTOR the said Lease bearing date the Eleventh day of August in the year 1729 and is recorded in the County Court of STAFFORD and thesaid land bounded beginning at a red Oak corner to PETER HITT and fromthence down to a Hiccory joining to the land of HENRY OTTERBACK and alongthe said OTTERBACKs line crossing LICKING RUN to a white Oak in Colo. CARTERsline thence up CARTERs line to a red Oak corner to PETER HITT thence alongthe said HITTs line to the beginning which said land HARMON RICTOR nowlives on and is in its possession To Have and To Hold the said parcel ofland to him the said HARMON RICTOR and his heirs without any manner ofclaim from me the said ELIZABETH MARR my heirs. In Witness whereof I haveset my hand and affixed my Seale this 28th day of July one thousand sevenhundred and forty six in presence of JAMES GENN.John Marr and his first wife (unknown) had a daughter (note her death place):Catherine Marr, b. c. 1710, d. c. 1770 Fayette Co. PA, m. Maj. John Hardin, c. 1732, Prince William Co. VA. He was b. c. 1710, Northumberland Co. VA and d. 13 Oct 1789, Nelson KY, s/o Mark Hardin and Mary Hogue. (info from descendant Lou Poole)Issue:John Hardin, b. Oct 1733 VA, d. 2 Jun 1804 Fayette Co. PA, m. Isabella Strawbridge or StubrachMary Hardin, b: Abt 1735 VA, m. Gen Owen Thomas, b. Georges Creek, PA s/o Lewis ThomasBenjamin Hardin, b. 1739 VA, d. 1817 KY, m. 1 Sarah Ellen Hardin, m. 2 ?Thomas Hardin, b. 1741 VA, m. Mary ?William "Indian Bill" Hardin, b: Abt 1746 Prince William Co. VA, d: Jul 22, 1821 Hardinsburg Ky, m. Winnifred Holtzclaw, d/o Henry Holtzclaw and Ann HardinMark Hardin, b. 1749 VA, d. 8 May 1792 KY, m. Ann HartleyJessie Hardin [female], b. 1751 VA, m. ? SinnettAbigail Hardin, b. 1752 VA, m. ? LynchCatherine Hardin, b. 1755, VA m. 1 ? Johnson, m. 2 Alexander BarnettElizabeth Hardin, b. 1757 VA, m. ? MartinSusanna Hardin , m. ? WalkerI haven't done much work on the descendants of Catherine Marr since there are so many others working on this family.More riddles and enigmas.Cindy
Here's some more information about the Hardins that coincides with what you have in Jefferson Co., KY--from Ancestry and Descendants. This is regarding John Hardin, Sr., the son of Mark Hardin and Mary Hogue:"In 1785 and 1786 two grants for 400 acres each were made to him in Jefferson Co., KY. on Hardin's Creek near the land of his son, William (Kentucky Grants, Jefferson Co., Book "Z", p. 469 and Book 4, p. 265, Land Office)."Here's something else of interest regarding the children of John Hardin and Catherine Marr as named in his will of 1788, probated in 1789 in Nelson Co., KY:John, Mark, William and Benjamin, and daughters Abigail Lynch, Mary Thomas, Catherine Burnett, Elizabeth Martin and Susannah Walker. His will also states "land near Hardin's settlement to granddaughter Caty Thomas...BC Holtzclaw states that the husband of Mary (Hardin) Thomas is Owen Thomas.I have a lot of information about the Hardin/Harden family and Mark Hardin, Sr., was one of the earliest settlers in the Elk Run area of Stafford Co., now Fauquier Co., VA. His son, Martin, owned an ordinary there for many years. And, his daughter, Nancy Ann Hardin, was the wife of Henry Holtzclaw, the son of Jacob Holtzclaw and his first wife, Anna Margerth (Otterbach).Mark Hardin was born in 1681 in New York, the son of Martin Hardewyn/Hardouin/Hardin and Madeleine DuSauchoy. I have church records of his birth and the christenings of their children, along with several court records as Madeleine's parents, Marcus DuSauchoy and Elizabeth Rossignol, were very litigious! They emigrated to New Amsterdam in 1657 on the ship, Draetvat. Okay, I have my work cut out for me this weekend, Marilyn! I want to piece together all that you've written here with the information that I have and see what we can come up with. This is great!Barb Price

• Married: ABT 1732 in ,Prince Wm,Va.

1. John HARDIN b: Oct 1733 in ,,Va.
2. Mary HARDIN b: ABT 1735 in ,Prince William,Va.
3. Benjamin HARDIN b: 1739 in ,,Va.
4. Thomas HARDIN b: 1741 in ,,Va.
5. William HARDIN b: ABT 1746 in ,Prince Wm,Va.
6. Mark HARDIN b: 1749 in ,,Va.
7. Jessie HARDIN b: 1751 in ,,Va.
8. Abigail HARDIN b: 1753 in ,Prince William,Va.
9. Catherine HARDIN b: 1755 in ,Prince William,Va.
10. Elizabeth HARDIN b: 1757 in ,,Va.
11. Susanna HARDIN b: ABT 1759