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  • ID: I37
  • Name: John Wesley English
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 1804 in NC 1
  • Death: AFT 1880 in Hall Co, or Banks Co, Ga
  • Census: 1850 District 32, Franklin Co, Ga, pg 248, house #9
  • Census: 1860 Franklin Co, Ga
  • Census: 1870 Berlin Twnshp, Banks Co, Ga.
  • Census: 1880 Banks Co, Ga District 465
  • Reference Number:

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    • Note:
      The 1880 census of Banks Co, Ga shows this family to be living next door to the family of
      James P. Massey.

      The 1880 census shows both parents of John English were born in SC.


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      The 1830 census of Franklin Co, Ga shows on page 246:
      John W. English, head of house,
      Males 20-30 = 1
      Females under 5 = 2
      Females 20-30 = 1

      next door to this family is:

      Sarah English, head of house
      Males 20-30 = 1
      Females 5-10 = 1
      Females 20-30 = 1
      Females 50-60 = 1
      {Research note: Sarah English may have been the mother to John W English. No proof but strongly
      suspected by the 1830 and 1840 census.}

      William Poole is listed on the bottom of this same page. (Melissa Hill lived with the Poole family as
      a child.)
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      1840 census of Franklin Co, Ga, Dist 208, page 337, shows:
      John W. English, head of house
      Males 30-40 = 1
      Females under 5 = 1
      females 5-10 = 1
      females 10-15 = 1
      females 20-30 = 1
      females 60-70 = 1
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      1850 census of Franklin Co, Ga, Dist. 32

      John W English District 32, Franklin, GA abt 1805 North Carolina
      Elizabeth English District 32, Franklin, GA abt 1812 Georgia
      Oliver English District 32, Franklin, GA abt 1827 Georgia
      Martha English District 32, Franklin, GA abt 1841 Georgia
      John English District 32, Franklin, GA abt 1843 Georgia
      Sarah English District 32, Franklin, GA abt 1845 Georgia
      Hester A English District 32, Franklin, GA abt 1848 Georgia
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      The 1860 census of Franklin Co, Ga shows the following family:

      John W English , Franklin, GA 60 1799 North Carolina Male
      Elizabeth S English , Franklin, GA 40 1819 South Carolina Female
      Martha M English , Franklin, GA 19 1840 Georgia Male
      John W English , Franklin, GA 16 1843 Georgia Male
      Hiram J English , Franklin, GA 14 1845 Georgia Male
      Sarah B English , Franklin, GA 12 1847 Georgia Female
      Hester Ann English , Franklin, GA 10 1849 Georgia Female
      Margaret English , Franklin, GA 8 1851 Georgia Female
      Susan English , Franklin, GA 5 1854 Georgia Female
      Albert H English , Franklin, GA 4 1855 Georgia Male
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      The 1870 census of Banks Co, Ga, shows the following to reside in the township of Berlin:

      John W English Berlin, Banks, GA 72 1797 North Carolina White Male
      Elizabeth English Berlin, Banks, GA 51 1818 North Carolina White Female
      Sarah V English Berlin, Banks, GA 19 1850 Georgia White Female
      Hester A English Berlin, Banks, GA 17 1852 Georgia White Female
      Margaret English Berlin, Banks, GA 15 1854 Georgia White Female
      Jane English Berlin, Banks, GA 13 1856 Georgia White Female

      Next door is:
      Hiram J English Berlin, Banks, GA 21 1848 Georgia White Male
      Malissa J English Berlin, Banks, GA 22 1847 Georgia White Female
      John W English Berlin, Banks, GA 10/12 1869 Georgia White Male

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      The 1880 census of Banks Co, Ga list the following on the same page:

      Highram ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 32 <1848> Georgia Male Self
      Larah M. ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 21 <1859> Georgia Female Wife
      John H. ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 10 <1870> Georgia Male Son
      Lorinia ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 8 <1872> Georgia Female Dau
      William B. ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 7 <1873> Georgia Male Son
      George M. ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 5 <1875> Georgia Male Son
      Everliver ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 3 <1877> Georgia Female Dau
      Farrest E ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 1 <1879> Georgia Male Son

      John W. ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 75 <1805> South Carolina Male Self
      Ellisabeth ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 65 <1815> South Carolina Female Wife
      Margaret ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 23 <1857> Georgia Female Dau
      Jane ENGLISH District 465, Banks, GA 21 <1859> Georgia Female Dau


      The next house to John W. ENGLISH is the household of James P. Massey

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      RESEARCH NOTES ON FINDING THE FATHER OF John Wesley ENGLISH:
      The search for the father of John Wesley ENGLISH has been an on-going exercise for many years.

      We know John Wesley English was born about 1804/1805 in NC. This information comes from
      various census (1850, 1860 and 1870). There is a troubling entry in the 1880 census that seems to say
      he was born in SC but, the entry is hard to read.

      If we assume the place (NC) and the date (1804/1805) are correct, then we can assume
      the father of John Wesley English should appear on the 1810 NC census with at least one son under the age of
      10.
      As it happens, there are only four families that fit this description:
      Henry English of Morganton, Burke Co, NC (three sons under 10).....(This individual has been eliminated/see notes on his page)
      Joseph English of Cedar Island, Carteret County, NC (one son under 10)
      James English of Rutherford Co, NC (one son under 10)
      John Inglish of Randolph Co. (two sons under 10).

      Another question about this family is a persistent idea that John Wesley English was the brother
      to Haywood and Hiram English. Research by others have determined Haywood English had a son,
      William English. William English appears on the 1880 census with his family and elderly uncle,
      Westley English, living in the same house. Elsewhere on the 1880 census, John Wesley English,
      appears with his family.
      It seems, therefore that the brother to Haywood was a different person than this John Wesley English.
      As far as the brother Hiram, I have found no proof that this John Wesley English had a brother
      named Hiram. It should be noted, however, that John Wesley English did name one of his sons
      Hiram Jefferson English. Haywood and John Wesley English may have been related but it
      appears they were not brothers.

      In a letter from Mr. Elton English, a descendant of George Manon ENGLISH, he states that he grew
      up with descendants of Hiram J and John Wesley English. It was always told to him that his
      uncle John Henry ENGLISH was named after his grandfather and his great grandfather. Mr. Elton
      English believes the full name of this individual to be William Henry ENGLISH. Mr. English has published several
      works for the White County Historical Society and has done extensive research on the ENGLISH family.
      Mr. English also believes John Wesley English had a brother named Hiram. Again, this was passed down
      to him through the family.


      If we assume the SC census entery is correct, then the following applies:
      1810 census of South Carolina

      Andrew English of Abbeleville.....2 males under 10, Roll: 60; Page: 110
      James B English of Abbeville....2 males under 10, Roll: 60; Page: 98
      John English of Abbeville.......2 males under 10, Roll: 60; Page: 97;
      Sam English,Charleston, Roll: 60; Page: 418,....2 males under 10
      Alexander Englis, Chester, Chester, Roll: 60; Page: 533;...3 males under 10
      Thomas English, Kershaw, Roll: 62; Page: 410;......6 males under 10
      Joseph English, Kershaw, Roll: 62; Page: 441;.......2 males under 10
      Sarah English, Kershaw, ; Roll: 62; Page: 415;....1 male under 10
      James English, Claremont, Sumter, Roll: 61; Page: 464;......1 male under 10
      Robert English, Salem, Sumter, Roll: 61; Page: 509,.........1 male under 10
      It should be noted there are several MASSEY families in Kershaw Co but none match the names tied to the ENGLISH line.
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      {{{The below quoted article was written by Mr. Elton English and taken from his published works, "Honing the Nuggett".
      The work originally appeared on the White Co, Arkansas Historical Society Web site and is
      used here with permission of Mr. English. The story tells of the migration of John Wesley ENGLISH's
      descendants from Ga to Ar about 1892. }}}


      "Honing the Nuggett"
      Published and copyright 2000, Elton English

      "Two Cultures Emerge

      Cultures revealing and healing from winds that blow,
      Woven into a fabric of sunshine and less snow.

      The English Family Ancestry

      George Manon English, my grandfather, was delivered--under his lucky star--during the
      second term of Ulysses S. Grant, the eighteenth President. He was born to Hiram Jefferson
      and Laura Ann Swafford English on March 15, 1876, in Maysville, Georgia. Maysville was
      near Gainesville, and George had relatives in both Banks and Hall counties. That same
      year Colorado joined the Union and Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone.

      Young George, the fourth of twenty children, grew up with an inquiring mind. He wanted to explore
      nature and learn more about the natural things of the wilderness. George Manon talked to his father
      about moving west of the Mississippi River into Arkansas. Hiram discussed the idea with Doug
      Price, his brother-in-law, and learned that his sisters Margaret, Mattie, Sally, Jane, and their families
      were interested.

      Hiram and Doug thought 1889 was a banner year because four states had joined the
      Union: North and South Dakota, Montana, and Washington. They decided, "This is the year to go on
      an expedition to examine the advantages of the West." Their journey led them into the delta of
      Arkansas, but it didn't appeal to them. They continued their pursuit west of Little Red River into
      Searcy Valley. Hiram liked this region because it was between the delta of Arkansas and the
      foothills of the Ozark Mountains. They returned to Maysville and gave George and the relatives
      a compete report of their trip.

      George Manon and his father Hiram continued to express the excitement of moving into north-central
      Arkansas. They soon learned they had stimulated the thinking of many relatives. Family after family
      began to embrace the idea until they had sixteen families. Hiram, my great grandfather, couldn't
      persuade his brother John, after whom he had named his oldest son, to join the group. John felt a
      responsibility to his parents (my great-great-grandparents Wesley and Elizabeth English).
      He couldn't find it in his heart to leave Maysville. John, nevertheless, gave Hiram his blessings for
      a successful journey to the West.

      George, at fourteen, could hardly wait to get on the road. Hiram explained to him that it would take
      several months to prepare for the journey. He said, "The mules will need to be in perfect condition.
      Their harness must be mended and oiled. Then the wagon wheels need to be tightened to be solid.
      We will need bows and tarps for all the wagons. One wagon must be made into a kitchen with supplies.
      All of our possessions that we can't move must be sold." George realized the preparation must
      be repeated by each family.

      Finally, the planners brought their work to fruition. The scheme, with the route mapped out, had
      been well thought through. Their goal seemed realistic, to average about 30 miles for each ten-hour
      day. Each driver had his wagon well-equipped for camp at night. They wanted it to be convenient
      for everyone to cook, eat, and sleep. Hiram urged each man to take ample supplies for both family
      and mules. All sixteen families, close relatives, were ready to become part of the wagon train.

      The year of 1891 was well established, with Benjamin Harrison serving as the twenty-third President.
      Furthermore, the forming of the Populist Party was receiving attention in the West. Hiram thought the
      wagon train would add to history by leaving Gainesville, Georgia, for the western journey. Each
      family was enthusiastic and dedicated to making the trip pleasant. Some of the families, because
      of size, were traveling in different wagons. This was not a problem for Hiram because his oldest
      son John was twenty-two and could manage the team as well as he. The family members who
      were separated looked forward to the encampments when they could be together.

      The environment of the nightly campsite was lively because there were excellent storytellers around
      the fire. They told traditional family stories that had come through generations. These narrators
      were people of different vocations: farmers, jewelers, optometrists, and businessmen. Some
      of these men and their descendants would later become some of the most prominent names in
      Searcy.

      George enjoyed camping but was inspired each day by the view of new territory. He noticed how
      the big, black, brown-nosed mules seemed to take pride in pursuit of the road with their ears
      alternating back and forth, keeping time with their step. The click of their feet on the hard surface
      of the ground was in rhythm with the clucking of the wagon. George knew there is a rhythm in life
      if one will keep in step with opportunities and be responsible.

      His responsibility--as placed upon him by his father--was to care for two prize hunting hounds they
      were bringing with them. He took his task seriously because he was an avid hunter. The responsibility
      of the lead driver was to follow a direct route, as close as possible, as they traveled west. He
      guided the wagons past Rome, Georgia, and proceeded through north Alabama south of the
      Tennessee River. The wagon train went across the northeast corner of Mississippi into southwest
      Tennessee to the river. George Manon knew he was looking at the biggest river in North America,
      flowing from Minnesota into the Gulf of Mexico.

      When the wagons rolled over the river into Arkansas, the excitement began to build. They felt they
      were on the last leg of their journey. The teams plodded through the delta into the fresh air of
      Crowleys Ridge, where the crushing of gravel and the creaking of harness was music to their
      ears as they continued toward White River bottom. When they crossed the river, the view of the
      cypress bottom was refreshing. They were looking for the rolling hills that would lead them to
      Little Red River. After they crossed the Red, everyone took a deep breath because they realized
      they were near Searcy. The wagon train rolled through town, traveling west, into Searcy Valley.

      The people were happy to have reached their destination. They had traveled in excess of 500 miles
      in approximately eighteen days. Now they must separate and establish their names in the new land.
      There were Englishes, Masseys, Garrisons, Gays, Prices, Rices, and Varners.

      Hiram English moved his family into a house on the highway east of Crosby Road, now known
      as the Wyatt farm, in the Dobbins' Community. The others moved farther west and settled east of
      Joy, on the mountain northwest of Center Hill, and named it Georgia Ridge.

      One of the Georgia hunting dogs disappeared before Hiram's family could get comfortable in its new
      location. George was heartsick as he searched the farm and the surrounding area, but the hound
      was no place to be found. He was anxious as he corresponded with his relatives. George Manon
      received word, after about three months, that the dog had returned to Maysville.

      Hiram was happy with the farm he had chosen because the terrain reminded him of north Georgia
      and the land was excellent for cotton. He would employ all the family with the plowing, planting, hoeing,
      and picking. The labor of the work force resulted in several good cotton crops. When the force began
      to thin because of children leaving home, Hiram decided to move farther west.

      Hiram Jefferson moved his family into a house near the Presbyterian Cemetery west of the intersection
      of the highway and Floyd Road in Center Hill. George Manon was living there when he met his
      wife-to-be and my grandmother Julie Laura Brinds. She was born October 28, 1877, to Albert and
      Elimira Watkins Brinds, the same year federal troops left the South.

      George and Julie were married within a few months and moved north of the low gap of Tater Hill, into
      a house at the foot of the mountain on the Collins farm. George and Julie decided to begin their family.
      Their first child, a son Oscar Oltie, was born September 27, 1898, the year the United States went to
      war with Spain. Their second child, a daughter Alice Mae, was born January 29, 1900, the year of the
      Boxer Rebellion in China when William McKinley was serving as twenty-fifth President. The third
      child, my father Andrew Jackson, was born June 6, 1903. This was the year the United States took
      control of the Panama Canal, and Theodore Roosevelt was the twenty-sixth President.

      Their fourth child, a daughter Cora Bell, was born August 15, 1906. In that year the San Francisco
      School Board required Japanese to attend a separate school. The fifth child, another daughter
      Dora Bell, was born May 20, 1908. This was the year President Roosevelt held a three-day meeting
      with business experts. A sixth child, a son Tollie Howard, was born October 2, 1910. In that year,
      Roosevelt returned from a European vacation, and William H. Taft was serving as the twenty-seventh
      President. A seventh child, a daughter Ila Rene, was born July 15, 1916. That year two major bills were
      passed by Congress: the Farm Loan and the Highway Act. George and Julie lost their youngest
      child Lena at the age of two.

      George and his father Hiram bought a farm on Georgia Ridge that had two houses. Most of the
      people from Georgia that had settled there had moved toward Rose Bud or Searcy. George
      moved into the older house and his father into the newer one. Here it was that Hiram was bitten
      by his rabid dog that later contributed to his death. George, after the death of his parents, moved into
      the newer home.

      My father, Andrew Jackson, therefore, attended Pleasant Ridge School. It was built in 1900 and located
      south of the Pleasant Ridge Cemetery, which was about one half mile west of his house. The school
      and cemetery were on the west end of Georgia Ridge. All the children in the surrounding area came
      there until World War One interfered. The teacher was drafted into the army in 1917, and the students
      had to finish the term at Joy. Andrew walked the round trip of five miles each day to finish school.

      Andrew continued his education under the guidance of his father, concerning the natural things of
      the land. He learned how to plow a straight row. George taught him to take a maul and froe and
      split shingles from the block of wood. He could take a broadaxe and hue a perfect seven-by-nine
      railroad tie. His ability to set a trap for a mink or coon was unequaled. Andrew could follow a bee
      course to the hive in the tree. He was taught to climb a ladder and saw off a limb, with a swarm of
      bees, and carry it down and shake them into the hive. His father taught him how to live off the land."

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      Marriage 1 _____ Slayton
        Children
        1. Has No Children Olivia English
        2. Has No Children Mary English

        Marriage 2 Elizabeth Shaw b: 1815 in Tn or SC (per 1860 Census)
        • Married: 27 JAN 1839 in Franklin Co, Ga 3
        Children
        1. Has No Children John Wesley (Jr) English b: FEB 1844 in Franklin Co, Ga
        2. Has No Children Sarah English b: ABT 1845 in Franklin Co, Ga
        3. Has Children Hiram Jefferson English b: 17 DEC 1846 in Franklin Co, Ga
        4. Has No Children Mattie English
        5. Has No Children Hester Ann English b: ABT 1848 in Franklin Co, Ga
        6. Has Children Sallie B. English b: ABT 1851
        7. Has Children Margaret T. English b: ABT 1852 in Franklin Co, Ga
        8. Has No Children Susan English b: ABT 1855 in Franklin Co, Ga
        9. Has No Children Mary Jane English b: ABT 1857 in Franklin Co, Ga
        10. Has No Children Albert (Or Alberta) English b: ABT 1857 in Franklin Co, Ga

        Sources:
        1. Abbrev: 1860 census of Franklin Co, Ga
          Note:
          1860 census of Franklin Co, Ga
        2. Abbrev: Interview with Marguerite Hughes Fraser.
          Note:
          Interview with Marguerite Hughes Fraser.
        3. Abbrev: Elaine Randall English, P.O. Box 477, Lakemont, Ga. 30552-0008, 706-782-4122
          Note:
          Elaine Randall English, P.O. Box 477, Lakemont, Ga. 30552-0008, 706-782-4122 eng4@alltel.net,
          http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hemlockhill/English.htm