ROSEs of KILRAVOCK, and the Cadet families, including The Virginians and the Lime Juice Family.

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  • ID: I1652
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: ABT 1806
  • Death: 01 MAR 1836 in At the Alamo./San Antonio, Bexar, Texas, USA
  • Note:

    The Rose Who Lost his Life at the Alamo James Madison Rose, nephew of President James Madison. It is recounted elsewhere, how a Frenchman (Louis Moses Rose) survived the Alamo by escaping over the wall during the final days of the siege. But there was another Rose there, son of Dr. Robert Henry and Frances (Madison) Rose, and nephew of President James Madison. His mother was the president's sister. The young James was a great-grandson of Rev. Robert Rose, the noted clergyman of Morayshire, Scotland and Essex and Albemarle Counties, Virginia who arrived in Virginia in the 1720s. Because of his presence at the Alamo in the final days, James Madison Rose unwittingly became entangled in a controversy that was to last over a half of a century. He did serve, and died with the others in the final days of the siege. The monument erected later correctly identifies him among the dead, listing him as J. M. Rose. However, before court testimony proved that the Frenchman Louis Moses Rose escaped, there were disbelievers who claimed that the monument had been incorrectly inscribed, and that it should have read ''L. M. Rose'' for Louis Moses Rose, instead of J. M. Rose. Years later, court testimony proved that Louis Moses Rose did indeed survive. And, a remarkable document signed by his brothers in 1853, prove that the president's young nephew lost his life with Bowie, Crockett and the other brave men in the fall of the Alamo.
    We do hereby Certify that Our Brother James M Rose at the time he left Lake Providence in the winter of 1835 - by the Way of Alexandria Louisiana on his route to Nacogdoches Texas where he joined the Company of David Crocket in the Military service of Texas and was afterwards killed at the fall of the Alamo according to the best of our recollection was a man of Sangam--? temperment about thirty years of age but under--? sallow by Continual attacks of Chill and fever before he went to Texas, was partially bald on the loss of the head, had Sandy Eyes light Blue or Grey, Broad shouldered inclined to round and would weigh when in flesh about One hundred and sixty pounds - was apt to stammer when at all Confused with Eye Brows heavy and light Coloured - and course features - In Testimony whereof we have here unto set our hands and seals this 24th day of October 1853. Hugh F. Rose Erasmus T. Rose aml Rose State of Tennessee Tipton County Personally appeared before me William B. Russell an acting justice of the peace in and for said County Hugh F. Rose Erasmus T. Rose and Saml J Rose with whom I am personally acquainted and made oath that the facts set forth in the above Certificate are true to the best of their knowledge and recollection. W. B. Russell (JP) Sworn to and Subscribed before me this Oct 24th 1853. The above affidavit was made to establish land bounty claims. A series of these claims granted to heirs of James M. Rose large amounts of land in Montgomery County, Gray County, and other Texas counties. The grants were recorded as late as 1936.
    [References: General Land Office, Austin, Texas, R. No. 8 Reg. No. 39819. A detailed genealogy of the Rev. Robert Rose family of Scotland and Virginia, from which James Madison Rose descended, The Brothers Rev. Robert Rose and Rev. Charles Rose of Colonial Virginia and Wester Alves, Morayshire, Scotland, by Christine Rose, (San Jose: Braun-Brumfield, 1985), pp. 177-180"

    Father: ROBERT HENRY ROSE b: ABT 1775 in Virginia, USA
    Mother: FRANCES TAYLOR MADISON b: 04 OCT 1774 in Orange, Virginia, USA
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