Descendants of Simon Hadley the Immigrant (IRE to PA/DE)

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  • ID: I19885
  • Name: John (theoretical) HADLEY
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: BEF 1590 in Shropshire, England
  • Death: 1630 in Shropshire, England.
  • _UID: D4BE5291A2A94748A113B0B6EB3124660F8C
  • Note:
    Supplement by John William Hadley 29 Aug 1999 (first part in Notes sectio n for his father Simon Hadley)
    Looking further into DeBrett's recommendation, a local Shropshire genea logist, Barbara Elderton, was hired to look into the wills of Simon and J ohn Hadley. We have found that this family used the names Simon and Joh n in each generation, and that John, who died in 1630, had a son named Si mon who did not receive the vast family holdings ( his brother John got i t all). Simon then disappears from Shropshire. I believe this Simon, or p ossibly his son, was our Simon I who died in Ireland in 1711. These famil ies were large landholders and likely close friends with the Talbots, wh o were the Earls of Shrewsbury, the local county seat. Simon Hadley perha ps married the great niece of the Earl, Catherine Talbot, and their wealt hy families helped them to buy land in Ireland. The reports from Barbar a Elderton will here be presented verbatim, for the benefit of future res earchers.

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    Work done at Shrewsbury 4/2/98, 3.15-4.30
    Written up 7/2/98, 7.45-8.15

    Search Quatt parish register:
    regrettably the earliest surviving register dates from 1672, which is rat her late for your purpose. I searched this from the beginning to 1700 a nd found the following Hadley events:
    9 Jul 1677 Mary dau John & Mary Hadley of Wootton bap 8 Nov 1678 Simon so n John & Mary Hadley bap
    22 Aug 1680 Margaret dau John & Mary Hadley bap
    1 May 1681 Frances Hadley widow bur
    8 Mar 1688 Thomasin dau John & Mary Hadley bap
    15 Jan 1690 Anne dau John & Mary Hadley bap
    15 Jan 1696 William Hadley of this parish bur
    10 May 1696 Francis son Francis & Eleanor Hadley bap 25 Apr 1699 John so n Francis & Eleanor Hadley bap [all dates corrected to modern calendar]

    I then went to a booklet about Quatt parish which had one document extrac t in it from the time you are interested in, a Hearth Tax Roll from 167 2 which included: Widow Hadley 4 hearths 8 shillings [this was the larges t number of hearths in Quatt Jervis hamlet so the family home must have b een of some size] Widow Hadley 1 hearth 2 shillings in Quatt Malborne ham let

    I then had a look at the copy extracts from wills at Lichfield from Shrop shire which included the following:
    John Hadley 1571
    Leonard Hadley 1587
    William Hadley 1604 admon.
    Eleanor Hadley 1613 and 1614 admon.
    William Hadley 1632
    Alice Hadley 1633
    Richard Hadley 1640 admon. of Kingswinford
    You will note that these do not all state a place so may or may not be o f interest, but they are worth a try next time I go to Lichfield.

    Heralds' Visitation of Shropshire (pedigrees of armigerous families in th e C16th)
    no Hadley as such, but a mention of Cecilia daughter and heiress of Alla n de Hadley who married Roger Corbett, knight, in late 1100s.

    Index to Shropshire Quaker Digests of births, marriages and burials suc h as have survived:
    1635-1837 Hadley negative.

    This was really only a start; there wasn't time to go any further on thi s occasion. Still to do are the wills at Lichfield, any earlier paris h chesttype material (held in secure reading room where there was not eno ugh space this time), any manorial material available at Shrewsbury, an d last but not least any Hadley references to follow up from great card i ndex there.

    So it's not going to be easy given the lack of an early parish registe r - looks like one volume must have been lost at some time. There is th e possibility of Bishop's Transcripts at Lichfield to fill in the registe r gap, though generally these have not survived from the early period, ei ther, but I'll certainly check.
    Meantime I have ordered copies of the three PCC wills (don't know wh y I said four, there were only three marked in fact). Would you like tra nscripts or abstracts of these when they arrive or can you read C17th han d - full transcripts of longer wills can be quite time consuming but abst racts, just the main details, are not usually too costly? I've added som e more work for you to my next Shrewsbury list (Feb 19th) and to my nex t Lichfield JRO list (not yet booked but probably before the end of the m onth).

    Hope this is all clear - with a new client it's difficult to know how muc h to explain of the jargon and how much you will understand, so please do n't be afraid to ask anything you need to!

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    Work done at Shrewsbury CRO 19/2/98, 10.0-10.30
    Written up with all this report including abstracts, 20/2/98, 4.0-5.15

    I searched the Quatt parish records listings to see if there was anythin g whatsoever from the early period that might just mention the Hadley nam e, but there was nothing early enough. I tried the parish register file s, the place index to the main calendar and finally the name index for Ha dley, but there just isn't anything else there. If there are manorial r ecords still in existence they must be held elsewhere, as is often the ca se when one lord held more than one manor, the records could be with an y of them. To check this you would need someone working in the London r ecord repositories with easy access to the PRO and the manorial index the re. I also tried the index to Shropshire Pedigrees, a huge collection o f C19th work on the main Shropshire families but again there was no Hadle y.

    I have now received the PCC will copies. These will be in the post to y ou as soon as I have taken copies for security's sake (I never trust ou r post office I'm afraid.) but meantime here are the abstracts:

    Dated 28 Aug 1590
    I Simon Hadley of the parish of Quatt in the diocese of Coventry and Lich field, yeoman, sick in body
    My daughter Ales forty pounds to be paid on her marriage, with such hous ehold goods as my wife shall think appropriate to her new status.
    My daughter Marie the same.
    My daughter Dorothie the same.
    My daughter Margerie the same.
    My son John all my farm implements,six oxen, four cattle, eighty sheep, a fter the death of my wife, meanwhile he is to be provided with food, drin k and clothing and is to remain with Elinor my wife to do her work and t o help her and the rest of my children. My wife is to pay him for thisw ork the sum of 33 shillings and four pence a year until he reach the ag e of 21. After that age if he remain with my wife she is to pay him for ty shillings a year, but if he leaves her and goes into service for anoth er man she is to pay him ten shillings a year towards his having a bette r living.
    Each of my god children to be paid 12 pence if they demand it.
    3 shillings and four pence to the poor man's box of the parish of Quatt E linor my wife the remainder, she to be sole executrix.
    Witnesses included John Bird "minister of the worde" [sounds very Puritan /non-conformist, a good sign if the family were to turn Quaker in the nex t century]
    Probate clause in Latin, proved at London 12 Oct 1590 to Elinor, widow.

    Dated 18 Jan 1600/1
    I William Hadley of Halesowen in the county of Salop, nailer, sick and di seased in body
    My body to be buried in the churchyard of Halesowen My wife Amy half o f my goods etc.
    My son William Hadley and
    My daughter Elizabeth Hadley to share the other half, to be paid as the y reach the age of 21
    My wife Anne [the earlier name is definitely Amy but I think this must b e a pet name for Anne, or else the scribe has made an error - not unhear d of!] Witnesses included Thomas Hadley
    Probate clause in Latin, proved at London 26 May 1601 [Incidentally Hales owen was in Shropshire for a short time but was for longer part of Worces tershire]

    Dated 23 Aug 1630
    I John Hadley of Wootton in the parish of Quatt in the county of Salop, s omewhat sick in body
    My wife Margery 12 pence
    My son Simon Hadley forty shillings to be paid of out my household good s My daughter Mary Hadley 12 pence
    My daughter Elizabeth Hadley 12 pence
    My daughter Ellenor Hadley 12 pence
    My son John Hadley all my houses and things belonging to them in Quatt, C laverley and Wooten parishes [in fact Wootton was not a parish in its ow n right so far as I can see but Claverley was]
    Probate clause in Latin, proved 2 Jul 1631 to John Hadley, son and execut or. This Simon I think must be too old to have been "your" Simon but he c ould be his father? The small legacy suggests that either he was unpopu lar (extremist religious views? Too early for Quakers of course) with h is father, or more likely simply that he was already set up in life and d idn't need so much help.

    I can still check at Lichfield for any further Hadley wills proved locall y. The only other thing I can suggest now is to follow up the other par ishes raised by these wills, Halesowen which I suppose will be at Worcest er, and Claverley which is in Shropshire again. I shall be at Lichfiel d next Tuesday so do you wish me to continue with local wills?

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    Packet now in snail mail with first batch of PCC will copies.

    With regard to your various emails:
    I have sent to London for the PCC wills you requested. May take a few w eeks. Don't worry about hassling me: I'm immune to it so far as genealog y is concerned! Things do take time, and depend on circumstance. Som e weeks I have to schedule three or four full days in record offices an d it can take another three to write up what I've found when a major pedi gree is involved. I do prioritise reports where I need a reply in orde r to do the next piece of work on the next RO visit, but other than tha t everything takes its turn in order of booking! I was interested by yo ur little autobiography. The thing here is that because America speaks E nglish we tend to assume it's a sort of extension of our own culture, bu t it certainly isn't - and in many ways it's much better, though perhap s that's a case of the grass being greener?...(on the other side of the c orral perhaps, is that how you spell it?)
    The reference from Domesday may be to the place rather than a person; th ere is a township of Hadleigh in Shropshire. I'll see what I can find n ext time at Shrewsbury. I wish it were as simple as just coming forwar d from Domesday. The problem is that before parish registers begin (1550 s if one is lucky) there is only the manorial material to go on, much o f which has not survived, and in any case it gives names but not necessar ily relationships though one can sometimes assume them. If one has earl y wills that's a bonus, but a good run of them that link is rare unless o ne is dealing with the upper strata of society.

    Work done at Lichfield JRO, 24/2/98, 2.30-4.0
    Written up with all this report 5/3/98, 9.15-9.45

    Search calendars of wills for Hadley:
    Calendar 1C earliest to 1650 H
    1571 John Hadley Enville 14b "will does not survive" 12 Jul 1587 Leo Had ley Fenny Compton 14b
    26 Sep 1604 William Hadley Chilvers Coton 147b admon.
    17 Apr 1613 Eleanor Hadley Quatt 13
    6 May 1614 Eleanor Hadley Quatt 75b
    24 Aug 1632 William Hadley Sutton Coldfield admon.
    17 May 1633 Alice Hadley Sutton Coldfield
    29 Jun 1640 Richard Hadley Kingswinford
    Calendar 3 1651-1670
    24 Sep 1662 William Hadley West Bromwich
    9 Jun 1671 Elizabeth Hadley West Bromwich
    2 Jun 1676 Joyce Hadley West Bromwich
    19 Oct 1683 Elizabeth Hadley Birmingham
    28 Nov 1692 Thomas Hadley Aston, Birmingham
    30 Mar 1694 Mary Hadley Aston, Birmingham
    12 Mar 1696/7 Thomas Hadley West Bromwich admon.

    I was not able to order the wills to view them because of the time. Le t me know which of these you would like me to check - obviously the Quat t and Kingswinford, but perhaps the other early ones, too? None of thes e places are a million miles from Quatt/Halesowen. I didn't feel it wa s worth going any later, unless you think it is?

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    I've added the wills for my next visit to Lichfield, which won't be fo r a couple of weeks as I don't have a full enough list yet. I've also a dded the Domesday enquiry to my Shrewsbury list, also not yet scheduled b ut probably last week of this month.
    The second batch of PCC wills have arrived so:

    PCC Will abstracts, made 18/3/98, 9.0-10.30

    I shall not post the copies on to you in view of what you say because the se, as the last PCC wills, are clerk's copies of the originals and so d o not have actual signatures.

    Dated 16 January 1512
    I, Edmond Hadley of Coventry, draper
    My body to be buried in St. Michael's church in the chapel of St. Katheri ne where both my father and mother are buried
    Various bequests to St. Michael's, to the Charterhouse in Coventry, to th e White Friars, the Grey Friars, to the poor people of St. John's paris h To Alice, my wife, such plate and household goods as she brought to me , six pounds in money, my house to dwell in for six years after my deat h John Hadley my son various household goods and furniture Richard Hadle y my son various household goods and furniture and the house eventually
    Elizabeth Hadley my daughter ten pounds and various household goods My th ree children
    John Hadley that dwells in the country [because of the reference to jus t three children and the repetiton of the name John, I feel this must b e a different person, probably a relative but one whose exact relationshi p is not clear to the testator - not uncommon in this period, almost ever yone except the immediate family were referred to as "kinsman" or "cousin " as below - and could well be a link to the Halesowen or Quatt branches ]
    My cousin Richard's wife
    William Fysher my cousin at London
    Grace and Agnes my servants
    My cousin Popy's wife of Shrewsbury
    My cousin Thomas Waryner of Coventry, dyer and John Dudley of the same, d raper, executors

    Dated 20 February 1607
    Contested administration in Latin of Richard Hadlie senior, late of Warle y, county Worcester
    George Hadlie natural son
    and Richard Hadley nephew of the son of Richard Hadley senior [I think th is makes him a grandson of and Richard senior and a son of a brother of G eorge's] versus Joseph Hadley alias Deaken and Francis Mills [Without tra nslating every word,the gist of it is a disputed marriage contract, but t he court decided that George and Richard were the nearest blood relative s of the deceased, but reserved some interest in the estate by way of com pensation for Joseph and Francis, whose relationship to the deceased is n ot really made clear.]

    Dated 5 January 1638
    I Elizabeth Hadley of Stockton in the county of Salop [Shropshire], wido w My body to be buried in the parish church of Stockton My Master Sir Wil liam Whittmore, knight, ten pounds My kinsman Roger Symons the son of Joh n Symons, ten pounds and various iron goods
    My kinswoman Ellen Justice, five pounds, bed and bedclothes, other househ old items
    Ellen Justice one of the daughters of the said Ellen Justice Elizabeth Ju stice one other of the daughters of the said Ellen Justice My sister Elle n Foord John Lenn the younger and his sisters Marie and Elizabeth John Wi tnall Francis Symons the son of Thomas Symons
    My man[servant] Richard Greene
    My goddaughter Elizabeth Hill the daughter of Samuel Hill My godson Jame s Crannige
    My godson Francis Hasellwood
    My goddaughter Elizabeth Betensonn
    Edward Smith's man Richard
    My brother John Symons
    My brother William Beetenson
    Katherine Laighton, widow
    My sister Ellen Foord executrix
    Probate 8 Sep 1638 to Ellen Foord

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    Thanks for your latest. I couldn't open the attachment I'm afraid, I ju st don't have anything that will recognise a .mim ending.

    With regard to the Talbot family - well that opens up endless possibiliti es. The Talbots were the earls of Shrewsbury! However, the greater par t of their property was in the north of the county. There are endless T albot pedigrees in the Shropshire pedigree series on film at the CRO, bu t I should warn you they take ages to search, I've done some before. Th ey are basically C19th handwritten pedigrees, sometimes with very littl e in the way of dates and place, sometimes with quite a bit, but if a Had ley married a Talbot it would be there, somewhere! It might not tell yo u much about the Hadley, though. What I'm saying is I wouldn't dream of s earching these without the client's say-so, especially when the family i s not the actual subject of the pedigree (you will see that I did check t he index which lists only the main families covered) but of course if yo u want me to try I will do so.

    Work done at Shrewbury 1/4/98, 12.30-2.0
    Written up 2/4/98, 3.30-4.0

    Searched all books on general history of Shropshire available on open she lves, including Victoria County History for which, you will be delighte d to hear -not-
    the volume which will cover Quatt has never been published. I did fin d a few bits, and, fortunately because the VCH is usually the main sourc e for Domesday, I did find that in one of the books, too. I would hav e had the whole section on Hadley in this one copied, but the machine whi ch will do books which have to be turned over but not have their spines b roken, is not working at present. So I have just copied out the Domesda y entry for now: From Eyton's Antiquities of Shropshire, vol. 7, p.352-6 2 on Hadley township "The Same Rainald holds Hatlege, and Goisfrid [hold s it] of him. Witric and Elric held it [in Saxon times] for two Manors . Here are II hides. In demesne there is one ox-team, and II serfs an d VII Boors with half team, and yet there might be two and a half temas a dditional here. Here is a Mill of 2s. [annual value], and a league of w ood. In King Edward's time the Manor was worth 37s. [per annum], now i t is worth 15s.
    He [Rainald] found it waste." Domesday fo.254, b, 2.
    He goes on with the pedigree of the de Hadley's to Alan de Hadley who ha d only one child and sole heiress, Cecilia, who married into the Corbet f amily. So I think you can dismiss any connection with these de Hadleys.

    Hearth Tax 1672
    Purslow Hundred: Hopton Castle, Hadgly and Brodart John Hadley 1 hearth , 2d tax.
    Stottesdon Hundred: Quatt Jervis and Quatt Malbourne, as already extract ed from another source.
    Brimstree Hundred with Borough and District of Halesowen: Yeeley: Georg e Hadley 1 hearth 2d
    Romsley : Humphrey Hadley 2 4d
    Richard Hadley 1 2d
    Halesowen Borough: Thomas Hadley snr. 1 2d
    Thomas Hadley jnr. 1 2d
    Jonathan Hadley 1 2d
    Oldbury: Joseph Hadley 2 4d
    Paupers discharged by certificate within this Hundred [i.e. exempt becaus e unable to pay]:
    William Hadly, Wm. Hadly, George Hadly, Will. Hadly, Chris. Hadly, John H adly, Thos. Hadly, George Hadly, Thos. Hadly, John Hadly jnr., Laurence H adly [there is no significance in the spelling of the name here, just ho w a different clerk dealing with the exemptions chose to spell it]

    There were another couple of references in the calendar for Quatt but I w as unable to find these on the open shelves so they may be on loan on i n the search room; I will keep looking.
    I'm booked for Lichfield JRO on 14th April to see your wills.

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    Work done at Lichfield JRO 14/4/98, 1.0-1.15 and 3.30-5.0 Written up 17/4 /98, 5.0-5.45

    I ordered all the wills on the list, but when they tried to find them th e first one had not survived like the one already noted on the original l ist, and the last two or three went over my quota of documents for the af ternoon but I don't honestly think we need them as they are too late.

    1587 Leonard Hadley of Fenny Compton, will with inventory dd. 23 Mar 1586 /7 I, Leonard Hadley of Fenny Compton, Warwickshire, taylor, sick of bod y My dau Johan Barley
    My dau Elizabeth Sugar
    My son William Hadlye
    Pr. 12 Jul 1587 to William, sole executor

    dd. 17 Apr 1613 Eleanor Hadley of Quatt, inventory, taken 16 Apr 1613, a t Wotton in the parish of Quatt
    Animals and household goods valued at 63. 13s. 4d, with Admon. to son Jo hn Hadley of Wotton, husbandman.

    dd. 6 May 1614 another copy of the same inventory above, with memo: Abou t 14 Mar 1612/3 Elizabeth Hadley being sick in body made her last will an d testament in the words following before witnesses
    All my goods to John Hadley my son except 1 cow to Thomas Cocke my son-in -law and to my daughter's children my apparel and bed linen Witn. incl. J ohn servant to John Hadley.

    1632 inventory only of William Hadley of Sutton Coldfield taken 9 Jun, va lued at 49.13s.5d

    17 May 1633 Alice Hadley of Sutton Coldfield, will with inventory value d at 82.14s.4d
    dd. 11 Apr 1633
    I, Alice Hadley of Sutton Coldfield, Warwicks., widow, weak in body (ver y Puritan format for first clauses)
    my son Christopher Hollingsworth
    my daus Sibell, Anne, Margrett, Marie
    my dau Elizabeth
    my brother William Oneley
    pr. to William Oneley and Christopher Hollingsworth

    29 Jun 1640 Richard Hadley of Kinswinford, hamberman (?) inventory take n 7 Apr, with admon. to Jane Hadley, widow, bondsmen were nailers.

    22 Sep 1662 William Hadley of West Bromwich, naylor, with inventory take n 27 Mar admon. to Joyce, widow, children being minors.

    9 Jun 1671 Elizabeth Hadley of West Bromwich, spinster inventory by Thoma s Hadley taken 15 May
    dd. 18 Mar 1670
    I, Elizabeth Hadley of West Bromwich, spinster
    My cousins John Hadley, Thomas Hadley, Anne Collins, Mary James, Joyce H adley My brother-in-law William Turton
    My sister Sarah Bristoe
    My sister Joyce Hadley
    My cousin William Hadley executor.

    2 Jun 1676 Joyce Hadley of West Bromwich, widow
    with inventory taken 19 Jun
    dd. 3 Jun 1675
    I, Joyce Hadley of West Bromwich, widow, sick and weak My eldest son Joh n Hadley
    My cousin Thomas Hadley
    My dau Ann Collins
    My son-in-law George James
    My grandchildren William & Mary James
    My dau Joyce Hadley
    My son William Hadley sole executor.

    So I still don't think we are much further forward.

    Finally I checked the status of BTs for Quatt. These start from 1662 an d are supposed to be complete from then. It's ten years earlier than th e surviving register but still not really early enough to be much use, th ough I suppose there could be burials in particular that might relate t o the probable pedigree you outlined, and just possibly Hadley Quaker bir ths might be recorded as some parishes did this. Would you like me to s earch these next time I go to Lichfield? It won't be for a few week s I should think as I have to accumulate enough work for the JRO to mak e it worth the trip.

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    I've heard from my man in London, just this morning in fact, and he has p roduced quite a long list for our consideration:
    Wooten appears to have been part of the parish of Onibury, and the manor s associated with the three parishes are as follows: Quatt - Quatt, Quat t Malvern and Quatt Jarvis
    Claverly - Beobridge, Claverley, Claverley Bidell, Ludston & Ludston Lord ship Onibury - Duxmoore, Onibury, Walton & Wooton
    The refs on the following list are all details from the Manorial Document s Register which relate to those manors before 1670 at least in part. T hey have been transcribed as they appear on each card ref, hence the inco nsistencies in spelling, etc. The NRA refs shown against some of the ite ms refer to the National Records Archive at the Historical Records Commis sion.

    Court Rolls 1549-1618 }
    Bailiffs Accounts 1550-51 } Hampshire CRO (NRA 18628, Shenfield) Presen tments no date }
    Rental 1549 Birmingham Ref. Lib. (Cobham) (returns 5-10-31) Court roll s & rental 1528-50 Hampshire CRO (list of accessions 1969)

    Quatt Jarvis:
    Presentments etc. 1659 Capt. G.C. Wolyche-Whitmore, Dudmaston, Bridgnor th, Salop (NRA 4482)
    Court roll 1622 Shropshire CRO (Forester) SRO 1224 (return 15-6-62) NR A 34912 Weld-Forester
    Presentments at 1659 Shropshire CRO Wolryche-Whitmore of Dudmaston NR S court baron 4482

    Quatt Malvern:
    Court roll 1622 Shropshire CRO (Forester) (return 15-6-62) SRO 122 4 NRA 34912 Weld-Forester

    Court rolls & papers 1603-87 Staffs. CRO (NRA 10699, Trentham Bailiffs A ccounts 1339

    4 Court rolls 1333-34, 1351, Shropshire CRO (Gage) 1354 return dated 24- 7-63 641 Court rolls 1277-1789
    4 Court books 1683-1848 Shropshire CRO (NRA 11576) Court roll 1415 Shr opshire CRO report of County Archivist 1980-81 Account rolls, with 1450-1 509, (Ferrers family) purchased at Sothebys 13 Apr 1981
    other manors 1606-7
    Court roll 1441 Shropshire CRO Ref. MI377/1
    (fragment only) NRA 11563 SRO Misc Accs
    Fragment of 4 1565 and other Shropshire CRO
    Court rolls undated List of accessions Jan-May 1963 Estreat roll 1586 Raynham Hall, Norfolk NRA 1224 (Townsend) p.42 Court roll 1613 Shropsh ire CRO (SRO 2862) NRA 11563 Salop RO misc

    Court rolls 1425-1696 Staffs. CRO
    Misc Court papers 1598-1678 (NRA 10699, Trentham)
    Rentals 1554-C17th

    Court roll, with 1619-32 Bodleian Library, Oxford Stokesay & Onibury NRA 10479 addn Craven
    Court rolls 1669-87 Shrewsbury Public Lib (BRA) List 28/1-41, Miss Stok es Court rolls 1661-1806 Shrewsbury Boro Lib (Craven) (Return 1-10-52) E streats 1664 Shrewsbury Boro Lib (Craven) (Return 3-9-48) Court roll ( with 1661
    Court roll 1668 Shrewsbury Boro Lib (BRA 329) (list 8-3-45 BRA)

    Rental 1664 Shrewsbury Boro Lib (BRA) (list 28-1-41 Miss Stokes)

    I have a feeling that some of these references are very old and therefor e the material may well have been moved, for example from Shrewsbury Libr ary to the CRO, as is now considered good practice. I presume that yo u would like me to have a look at anything I can in Shrewsbury and Staffo rd based on this list? I have to say I have a bit of a waiting list fo r original documents work at Stafford at present. Once we have looked a t what I can access then we can consider whether it's worth pursuing anyt hing further afield, perhaps.

    The Talbot marriage is on my Shrewsbury list, again it depends on whe n I can book the right sort of machine; these pedigrees are very difficu lt to read on film so I have to have one with good mag or it's a hopeles s task! The Domesday copy is still waiting for the machine to be repaire d I'm afraid, I did try again this week but it's still no go. Money for l ocal government funding is very limited in the UK at present, and Librari es and Archives don't command a high priority. Shropshire is strugglin g with its budget in particular this year because central government ha s allowed Telford to break away and be a "unitary authority" basically ru nning itself, but this urban area was providing a major part of the budge t to be spent on the whole county so now the shire (rural) area is strugg ling - nottrying to bore you but just explain the kind of problem my goo d friends at the CRO are up against - some CROs have introduced hourly ch arges for research, but no so far my local 3.
    The other things you mention are on the list now, but I confess I'd forgo tten about the will transcripts - apologies. I'll do them John and Simo n right now, but Eleanor's I didn't have a copy done so will have toorde r one when I go to Lichfield next (Jun 9th) and when it comes through I c an do the transcript.

    In the name of God Amen; the three and Twentieth daye of August in the y eare of our Lord God accordinge to the Computacon of our Church of Englan d One thowsand six hundred and Thirty, I John Hadley of Wootton in the pa rishe of Quatt in the County of Salopp beinge somewhat sicke in body bu t thanks be to god of whole and p[er]fecte memory doe make my last will a nd testam[ent] in manner and forme followinge Wherin first and principal ly I Commend my soule into the mercifull hands of Almightie God my Creato r by the satisfaction of whose sonne Christ Jesus I looke for my undoubte d salvacon and my bodye to be committed to the earth. And next concerni nge my worldlye goods I dispose thereof in manner and forme following e Imprimis I give and bequeath unto Margery my wife twelve pence, Ite m I give and bequeath unto my sonne Simon Hadley the some of forty shilli ngs to be paid out of my houshould goods within one yeare next after my d ecease Item I give and bequeath unto my daughter Mary Hadley twelve pen ce Item I give and bequeath unto my daughter Elizabeth Hadley twelve pe nce Item I give and bequeath unto my daughter Ellen Hadley twelve penc e Item I give and bequeath all my Messuages Lands tenements and heredit aments with their Appurtenances whatsoever lyinge within the severall par ishes of Quatt, Claverley and Woten Togeather with all and every my good s Cattells Chattells and howshold stuffe whatsoever moveable and unmoveab le of what nature kind or quality soever the same my debts being first pa id and funerall discharged to my sonne John Hadley and to his heires an d assignes for ever whom I make Constitute and ordaine my full and whol e Executor of this my testament and last will desiringe him to p[er]form e fulfill and accomplish the same in all things accordinge to the true me aninge hereof In witness whereof I have here unto putt my hand and seal e the daie and yeare above writte n
    John Hadley Sealed and deliv[er]ed in the p[re]sence of John Whitemor e Thomas Ridge (he signed) Mary Baker Elnor Dorie
    Debts owinge to the Testator
    Impr[mi]s Francis Dovey of Nordley Tenn pound It[em] Thomas Back of Neth er Nordley
    two pounds three shillings It[em] Lewis Waters of the parishe of Rocke f or a Cowe and a Calfe
    three pound tenn shillings It[em] Roger Colings seaven pound It[em] th e widow Web of Wotton for
    rent five pound It[em] Thomas Jefferies for Rye foure shillings six penc e Debts w[hi]ch I owe
    Impr[mi]s to Humfrey Rowley twenty shillings It[em] to Humfrey Nicholl s twentie shillings Item
    to Edward Longmore six shillings Item to John Baskervile eight shilling s Item whereas
    John Deversill hath a specialty for a Certaine debt whereof I have paid h im seaven pound It[em]
    to John Gravnor of Mose three shillings It[em] to Alice Jourden three po und

    In the name of god Amen, the eight and twentieth day of August in the yea re of our Lord god one thowsand five hundred nintie I Simon Hadley of th e parrish of Quatt in the dioces of Coventree and Lichfeeld yeoman sick e in bodie but of perfect memorie thankes be unto allmightie God do mak e and ordayne my testamente wherin is contayned my will in manner and for me followinge. First and principally I bequeath my soule to Almightie g od my maker and redeemer and my bodie to the yearth from whence it came . Item I give and bequeath to Ales my Daughter the some of fortie pounde s of lawfull English monie to be paied unto her at the daye of her marria ge with such apparrell beddinge and implements of housholde as Elnar my w ife shall thinke meete and convenient for her estate and degree. Ite m I in like manner give and bequeath to Marie my daughter the like somm e of fortie poundes to be paid unto her at the daye of her marriage wit h apparrell, implements of housholde and beddinge as Elnar my wife shal l thinke meete and convenient for her estate. Item I give and bequeat h to Dorothie my daughter the like somme of fortie pounds to be paied unt o her at the daye of her marryage with apparrell and all such other thing s as I have bequeathed to Ales my daughter. Item I give and bequeath t o Margerie my daughter the full somme of fortie poundes of lawfull Englis h monie to be paied unto her at the daye of her marriage with all such fu rther things as I have bequeathed to Ales my daughter .
    Item I give and bequeath to John my sonne all my implements of husbandri e sixe oxen foure kine fourescore sheepe to be left unto him after the de cease of Elnar my wife. And my will is that he be founde with meate dri nke and apparrell honest and convenient for him and to remaine with Elna r my wife to do her worke and to be an healpe unto her and to the rest o f my children. And further my will is that in respecte of his worke
    and labor, with my wife she give unto him the somme of three and thirti e shillings foure pence of lawfull English monie yearly untill he shall a ccomplish the age of one and twentie yeares. And after the age of one a nd twentie yeares if he shall remaine with Elnar my wife and labour ord[e r]ly and diligently in her businesse then I will that Elnar my wife shal l give unto him yearly for his labour the some of fortie shillings of cur rant English monie.
    But if he shall depart from Elnar my wife and remaine in service with a nie other man then my will is that Elnar my wife shall paie unto him th e somme of tenne shillings yearly for and towardes his better maintenance . Item I will that if anie of my said daughters shall happen to be unmar ied untill they be of the age of thirtie yeares that then mine executor s hall paye unto them or anie one of them so unmarried her or their portion s before bequeathed to be sell out and occupied to theire better benifit e and profitt. And further I will that if anie of my daughters shall hap pen to departe this life before the daye of her marriage then her portio n soe dyinge shall be equally devided amoungst the rest of my daughters . Item I give and bequeath to all my god children to everie one of the m the somme of twelve pence if they demaunde it. And further I give t o the poore mans boxe of the parrish of Quatt the somme of three shilling s foure pence of currant Englishe monie. Item all the rest of my goode s and chattells unbequeathed I give and bequeath to Elnar my wife whom e I make my sole executrix to see this my will and testament performed an d my funerall expencs discharged. These beinge witnesses of this my las t will and testament. The witnesses of this will and testament John Bir d minister of the worde, John Davy of Mese, Marie Hadley with others.
    Debtes owinge to me the said Simon Hadley at the daye of my deceasse Impr imis of John Woolrich, gent of the countie and dioces of Hereford the ful l somme of tenne poundes. Item of William Andros of Quatt thirtie shilli ngs. Item of Richard Andros of Quatt foure shillings eight pence. Ite m of Humfrey Tedstid six and twentie shillings eight pence. Item of Thom as Davy twentie shillings. Item of Nicholas Jones twentie shillings. Ite m of William Carter six shillings eight pence. Item of Thomas Baker six e pounds. Item of Thomas Androes twentie shillings.

    Hi John!
    Thanks for your latest. The Irish trail looks a good one; I feel the ear lier the connection with England proves to be the more likely it is to
    be with Quatt as that would place it in the period when we have little
    information and therefore good reason not to have found him - sounds a
    bit of what we would call an Irish train of thought there, if you can f orgive the pun, but I'm sure you will see what I mean.

    I've made a start on chasing up the manorial material:

    Work done at Shrewsbury CRO 22/7/98, 3.30-4.30
    Written up 29/7/98, 12.30-1.0

    I collared one of the search room assistants to help me try to track th e Shropshire based bits of the listing, findings in bold.
    Quatt Jarvis:
    Presentments etc. 1659. G.C. Wolyche-Whitmore, Dudmaston, Bridgnorth, S alop (NRA 4482) see below
    Court roll 1622 Shropshire CRO (Forester) SRO 1224 (return 15-6-62) NRA 3 4912 Weld-Forester
    Forester collection is "closed" and not available to public search Presen tments at 1659 Shropshire CRO Wolryche-Whitmore of Dudmaston NRS court ba ron 4482 Should be possible to order to view from main catalogue next tim e

    Quatt Malvern:
    Court roll 1622 Shropshire CRO (Forester) (return 15-6-62) SRO 1224 NRA 3 4912 Weld-Forester see above

    4 Court rolls 1333-34, 1351,Shropshire CRO (Gage)
    1355 return dated 24-7-63
    Should be possible to order to view from main catalogue next time 641 Cou rt rolls 1277-1789
    4 Court books 1683-1848 Shropshire CRO (NRA 11576) see below Court rol l 1415=09=09Shropshire CRO report of County Archivist 1980-81 no idea o n this one Court roll 1441 Shropshire CRO Ref. MI377/1
    (fragment only)NRA 11563 SRO Misc Accs
    ref not recognised, but also see below
    Fragment of 4 1565 and other Shropshire CRO
    Court rolls undated List of accessions Jan-May 1963 Should be possible t o order to view from main catalogue next time, ref parish collection P68 / Court roll 1613 Shropshire CRO (SRO 2862) NRA 11563 Salop RO misc appea rs to be part of Evans collection, try to access next visit Wootton: Cour t rolls 1669-87 Shrewsbury Public Lib (BRA) List 28/1-41, Miss Stokes Cou rt rolls 1661-1806 Shrewsbury Boro Lib (Craven) (Return 1-10-52) Estreat s 1664 Shrewsbury Boro Lib (Craven) (Return 3-9-48) Court roll (with 166 1 Stokesay) Court roll 1668 Shrewsbury Boro Lib (BRA 329) (list 8-3-45 BR A) Onibury: Rental 1664 Shrewsbury Boro Lib (BRA) (list 28-1-41 Miss Stok es) probably still in Borough Library as no sign of acquisition
    The ones given as NRA and BRA refs they suggest I should contact the re levant bodies and ask for more information. So I have written to the Na tional Register of Archives and the British Records Association to see wh at they can add - it's even possible some of this material has been publi shed at some stage.
    I'll let you know when I have replies.
    Sorry there's not more news yet. I'll try the ones they could find ne xt time I go to Shrewsbury, though I don't know yet when that will be.
    Best wishes,

    The following was found in the Manorial rolls. The Simon Hadley listed wa s probably the same Simon who died in 1590. Simon was a major land holde r under the Wolryche family. ( get reference of following )

    2922/3/9 24 April 6 Elizabeth (1564)
    Marriage Settlement
    1. William Wolryche of Dudmaston, esq.
    2. Thomas Poyner of Beslowe, esq.
    In consideration of a marriage already had between William Wolryche an d Dorothy one of the daughters of Thomas Poyner, William 'Wolryche covena nts

    before the Nativity of St. john the Baptist., next to convey to Thom as Poyner and to Robert Pygott and Thomas Screven esqs, Francisse Gattacr e, William Poyner, Franceis Muckelowe, Rychard Broke, Thomas Pygott, Fran ceis Wolryche, Edward Screven, William Whytcombe, John Poyner and John By est, gents. the Manor of Dudmaston and all his property in Dudmaston, Pre stopp,Whytley Fields, Claverley, Cotton, Asteley, Alveley and Quatt, to u ses. As concerning lands and tenements of William Wolryche of the yearl y value of t39 16s 10d in Prestopp, Whytley Fields, Cotton , Asteley, Cla verley, Alveley and Quatt (Rychard Persons, John Wedgewood, Homfrey Goug h, Foulke
    Persons, John Baule, John Wannerton, Thomas Hadeley, John Hadeley, Homfer ey Potter, John Potter, Thomas Wyks, Rychard Payne, Thomas Hooke, Symon H adley, John Dovye, James Reignolds, Gyles Jurden, John Pryce, Richard Hyl l and Elizabeth Broke, widow) to the use of William and Dorothy and thei r corporeal heirs, and in default to William and his heirs forever; and c oncerning the residue of the property of William, to the use of William a nd his heirs by Dorothy, in default to William and his heirs forever.
  • Change Date: 30 APR 2000 at 16:11:16

    Father: Simon HADLEY
    Mother: Elinor

    Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
      1. Has Children Simon HADLEY b: 1640 in of, , , England
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