Name: John GREER 1
Birth: 1688 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore Co., MD
Death: BET 17 APR AND 1 JUL 1752 in Half Moon, Onslow Co., NC
John Greer, Sr
by carole taylor puntenney
from: FindAGrave.com, Memorial# 115747906, @http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=115747906, accessed May 7, 2015:
'John was born the same year his father James died, 1688. He was the only child of James and Ann Taylor-Greer."
As per the Will naming JOHN GREER (no initial)
dated 7 April 1752, that names his children, 3 of his sons are my g-g-g grandfather's:
William, married to Mary "Ann" Fitch &
Benjamin, married to Rachel Lowe
Joseph, married to Ann Lowe, his sister-in-law'S 1/2 sister,
As per St.John's Parish Records, Joppa, Baltimore Co.
marriage: William & Ann Fitch-GREER's and their son William Jr. married Sarah Freeland and had a daughter, Elizabeth who married James D. Greer, son of his Uncle Benjamin & Rachel Lowe-Greer. Their marriage record is also recorded in St.John's Parish as was the marriage of,
Joseph Greer & Ann Lowe-GREER. They had a daughter, Jemima GREER, who married Philemon Saunders, they had a daughter Jemima Saunders.
Elizabeth AND James D Greer had a son, Ezekiel GREER (SR) who married Jemima Saunders, the daughter of his Aunt Jemima Greer-Saunders/Philemon.
Their daughter Jemima Saunders married her Uncle James D. & Aunt Elizabeth's son Ezekiel SR.
This marriage record is in the Virginia Marriages Index.
They had 7 children before he died in 1830. The last child being my g-g-grandfather Ezekiel GREER JR. who married Mary Rhoda Poynter-GREER. Their union produced at least 8 children. Their son Lemuel Cerwood GREER is my g-grandfather, who married Adeline Elizabeth Manis-GREER. They had 5 children: William-Robert-James-Opal and my grandmother, Lula Greer-Taylor (Parks) She married Clarence Lee Taylor and they had 4 kids, Roscoe-Beulah-my DAD Herschel Lofton and lastly, Melvin. And Herschel married Eulene Puntenney-Taylor. And then there is me- my sister Barb and brother Herschel Lee. etc etc....
SOURCES: Wills-marriage record for Ezekiel Sr to Jemima Saunders-marriage record Ezekiel Jr to Mary R Poynter-marriage Lemuel Greer to Manis-census records: 1850 and back. birth/death certs for Taylor's - Greer's = Manis's -
WHAT I WOULD STILL LOVE TO FIND IS A COPY OF EZEKIEL JR. BIRTH RECORD. Since his death cert says: PARENTS; "UNKNOWN"
AND no place for a wife's name.
John Greer's Will from North Carolina, Onslow, Province. names his "beloved wife Chloe (Jones)his Executrix."
"To my 6 sons John Greer, Moses, Aquilly, William, Benjamin, Joseph and 3 daughters, Ann, Sarah, Elizabeth."
(it goes on to say, "Item, I give and bequeath to my son John Greer Jr. son of Cloe Greer, ......"
(Looks like the first son, JOHN that is named must be the JAMES, why would he name another son JOHN JR. when he already had one?)
Then also, From the Registry of St. John's Parish 1 Nov. 1743 calls for the appearance of John Greer (no initial)and Chloe Jones, regarding their unlawful cohabiting together.."
CHILDREN named in the Will:
James "John" , B: 1709 mar. Elizabeth Barton
Moses, B: 1712 mar. Mary Jane Bailey
Aquilla B: 1716 mar. Elizabeth LOWE
(yes same father as the other 2 sisters)
William SR. B:1710 mar. Mary Ann FITCH
Benjamin B:1725-27 mar. Rachel LOWE
Joseph B: 1725-27 mar. Ann LOWE
Ann, B: 1720 mar. John William Starkey
Sarah, B: 1721 not married (died in her first year)
Elizabeth, married Jacob Davis (Davice)
John JR., B: 1714 mar. Sarah Ann Elliott
(According to the will, it calls, my son JOHN GREER JR. the son of Cloe Greer.)
But the DNA test of a male descendant of John JR.'s says this is NOT TRUE! He is a descendant of Sarah Day-Greer
ALSO NOT LISTED ON JOHN"S WILL IS another son:
There is DNA tests that name another son, Thomas GREER.
EMAIL received from a descendant of John/Sarah DAY-GREER..
Talking about the will of John Greer, from Onslow Co. N.Carolina.
"And WHERE is Thomas? He was born in 1723, around the time Elizabeth nee Greer Davice. I've seen this will. Ralph Terry has it posted on rootsweb under John Greer. My DNA results clearly show I am related to Thomas Greers siblings, and the siblings of his mothers line. (Nicholas Days line) ...
from: Descendants of Hugh II, (http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/rterry1/greer-d.htm), "Electronic," John Greer (#516), Ralph Terry, editor.
516. John Greer was born between 1682 and 1688 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore Co., MD. He died on 15 Sep. 1750 in Baltimore Co., MD. He was buried. "John Greer, as his name is spelled in all of his records, was born in Baltimore County in 1688, as will be proven, and was a planter at the same time speculated in lands to a considerable extent. His first land consisted of the 75 acres which he inherited from his parents; his purchases were from 1718 to 1720 and his sales were from 1714 to 1748. After 1748, his name is not found in Maryland records. In order to verify the above statements, that John Greer was the son of James Grear and his wife, Ann Taylor, and that John Greer was born in 1688, copies of Court Records will follow:
"BOOK T. R. #A, fOLIO 333, TRANSCRIBED FROM LIBER 15, FOLIO 296-71: "John Greer to Walter Bosley: This Indenture, 4 March 1714, John Greer, of Baltimore Co., MD, planter, has received rent from and sells to Walter Bosley 75 acres, being part of Arthur's Choice in Baltimore Co., on the South side of Gunpowder River, called Bird's Run, beginning at a red oak... (The entire description will not be copied, because it is exactly as shown in the original grant from Arthur Taylor to James and Ann Greer.) "Be it remembered that on 4 March 1714, came Ann Harriott, mother of said Greer and Sarah, his wife, both of whom being privately examined by Luke Raven, Gent., one of the Justices of the City Court of Baltimore Co., acknowledged all their rights of Dower to the within mentioned, bargained and sold land and improvements on the premises of the said John Grear, likewise acknowledged in open Court, according to the Act of Assembly. Signed John Stokes."
"BALTIMORE COURT PRECEEDINGS - LAND COMMISSION, LIBER H.W.S. NO. 2, FOLIO 144, 1732 DEPOSITIONS: "John Greer testified of having been informed, some fourteen or fifteen years before, by his uncle, John Taylor, then Deputy Surveyor, that the beginning tree of Heathcoat's cottage was a bounded poplar tree which stood at the head of the first draft above Nicholas Day's plantation, near to an Indian cabin and that at some small distance from the place where the deponent now stands, being a bounded poplar tree standing near the head of a great drain on the third branch on the North side of the main falls of the Gunpowder River, there appeared to have been formerly made an Indian cabin." (This again confirms that John Grear's mother was Ann Taylor, since her brother, John Taylor was his uncle.)
"MARYLAND HISTORY MAGAZINE, Vol. 18, p. 21: "In 1738, John Greer deposed that he had been bitten by a rattlesnake in the woods about 30 perches above the mouth of the Long Green River and futher, that he was 50 years old at that time." This places his birth as in 1688.
"BALTIMORE COURT PRECEEDINGS - LAND COMMISSION, LIBER W.B.M. VOLUME 16, FOLIO 147: "July 25, 1743, before the Land Commission held to determine the bounds of a tract called, Thompson's Tott, laid out for George Thompson. That thirty years ago, or there about, Mr. John Taylor, who then lived on the South side of Gunpowder River near the ferry and afterward went to Carolina, and if now living is seventy-eight, the said John Taylor shewed this deponent a bounded black and red oak which this deponent now sheweth unto us, fairly bounded by three trees... the aforesaid oak stands on the East side of a swampy stream descending into Momigold Run, now called Honeygo Run." (This is given to establish the birth date of John Taylor, as 1665.)
"ANN ARUNDEL & BALTIMORE COUNTIES - RENT ROLLS NO 1, FOLIO 230: "Greers park, 100 acres, rent 4 shillings, surveyed to John Greer, 3 February 1718, lying on the Great Falls of Gunpowder River in Baltimore Co., patented to said Greer, 6 March 1732, Certificate A.M., #1, folio 213, Patent P.L. #8, folio 802. These same 100 acres were transferred to Mark Guishard, 5 April 1748, by John Greer and his wife, Sarah, did not join in the Deed. (T.B. #E., folio 715.)"
"ANN ARUNDEL & BALTIMORE COUNTIES - RENT ROLL NO. 1, FOLIO 259: "Greers Improvement, 58 acres, rent 2 shillings, 6 pence, surveyed for John Greer, 24 January 1720, lying on North side of Main Falls of Gunpowder River. Certificate E.I. #3, folio 289. Patented E.I., #4, folio 167. John Greer sold these to Mark Guishard 5 April 1748. T.B. #E., folio 715. Wife did not join in Deed."
"ANN ARUNDEL & BALTIMORE COUNTIES - CERTIFICATE E.I. #3, FOLIO 443: Greer's Discovery, 92 acres, rent 0-3-8 1/2, surveyed to John Greer 24 January 1720, lying on North side of Main Falls of Gunpowder River. Patented to Thomas Greer, Liber E.L. #4, folio 410. John Greer transferred these 92 acres to Mark Guishard 2 March 1747, wife did not join in Deed. It is here assumed that Sarah Greer died following the birth of her twin sons, Benjamin and Joseph Greer, born 6 January 1727.
"Consulted Maryland records fail to disclose Wills for either John Greer or his wife, Sarah, so the names of their children have had to (be) established through records to be quoted in each case. Before listing their names, because this is a controvercial question, the following references are given:
"SCOTCH - IRISH SETTLEMENT IN VIRGINIA, (AUGUSTA COUNTY RECORDS, p. 275) VOLUME 3, p. 18, by Lyman C. Chalkley.: "15 September 1750 - John Greer's Noncupative Will: Debts to be paid to William Long, William Neil, John Kennedy and Nathaniel Patterson; son, Alexander, to be bound to a trade; one child to be bound to John Mitchell; one child to be bound to S. D. (sic, evidently Samuel Doak); oldest girl to go to some decent woman to learn housewifery." Executors: John Mitchell and Samuel Doak. Teste: James Corwin, John Mitchell, Samuel Doak, Francis Beatey." IBID. VOLUME 3, PAGE 446: "22 September 1750, John Greer's Vendue: Sold to John Lockhart, John Roseman, Sarah Lynn, John Teat, John Mitchell, Chilpa Kelley, George Buckingham, Thomas Scott, Jane Lynn, Thomas Teat and Francis Beatey. John New." IBID. PAGE 26 (AUGUSTA COUNTY RECORD, p. 447): "24 August 1752, John Mitchell and Samuel Doage (sic.) gave bond as guardians apointed for Rebecca, Alexander, Martha and Mary Greer, orphan children of John Greer, deceased, with Surety, Francis Beatey." IBID. VOLUME 1, PAGE 66 (AUGUSTA COUNTY ORDER BOOK, NO. 4, PAGE 331.): "Samuel Doak and John Mitchell, guardians for the orphan children of John Greer, made final settlement, 22 November 1754."
"It is not known upon what date John Greer went to Virginia, presumably to be nearer his older children. While proof is lacking, it is thought the documents, above quoted, apply to the John Greer, born in Baltimore Co., MD in 1688, who must have married again, some time after the death of his first wife, Sarah, assumed to have died after January 1727, and by his second marriage became the father of four additional children: Rebecca, Alexander, Martha and Mary Greer. His second wife must have predeceased him, since her name was not mentioned in his Will and his children were spoken of as orphans. The fact that his estate was settled 22 November 1754, it is obvious that his youngest child, Mary, had reached maturity, 18 for a daughter, or at marriage, at or before that date. Accordingly, her birth date would be about 1736; Martha in 1734; Alexander in 1732 and Rebecca in 1730, close to three years after the death of Sarah, his first wife. It must be remembered that in Augusta Co., VA, at that time, there many others by name of Greer, such as those from Andrew Greer to Tennessee and others from The Carolinas. It is very difficult to seggregate them, John Greer, born in 1688, would have been but sixty-two years old at his death, in 1750. This sketch is based on the above conclusion and will credit John Greer with children, thirteen: Their names will follow:" [children and descendants listed.] (GREGOR, MacGREGOR, MacGHEE, MAGRUDER, GRIERSON, GRIER, GREER --- A HISTORY OF THE ORIGIN OF THE ABOVE FAMILIES AND MANY OF THEIR DESCENDANTS, 1954, compiled by Robert M. Torrence, A.B., F.G.S.P., F.I.A.G., 110 Edgevale Road Baltimore 10, Maryland, p.s 144 - 148 .)
(NOTE FROM RALPH Terry: The following sources are mentioned by Bell (others?) Rent Roll #1 folio 259; Book E.L. #4 folio 410; General information about John Greer as per J. B. Bell in GREER KINSMEN from Mrs. Vivian G. White, expert on this family, 1970; Marge Hankins, 1986, who lists Gayle Holmes, Ann Hughes Farnsworth, Margretta Schrader, Dr. Benjamin Cartwright and research in Kentucky and Missouri as her sources. Carolyn Beal lists her sources as T. N. Greer; Sylvester Greer; Mary Weaver Garcia; Darlene Leese (T Bar Ranch, Eldorado, Oklahoma 73537); and the Mormon Records submitted by Ellen Greer Rees.)
"Many compilations on the Greer family show Sarah (Day) Greer's death date from 1742 to 1747. This date seems to have been based on Sarah not signing any deed releases during 1747 and 1748. However, a logical scenerio could be as follows: According to the vestry books, in Baltimore Co., "John Greer was admonished for co-habitating unlawfully with one Chloe Jones (not dated)."" (ROYAL HERITAGE OF THE GREERS by Carolina Beal, 1985, p. 33.) (NOTE FROM RALPH Terry: Sarah, John's wife, apparently, separated from him and went to live with her son, Aquilla at the Chilimara Plantation (as seen by a land lease record found under Aquilla Greer). John was still in Baltimore Co., MD where he had four additional children, possibly by Chloe Jones. John later moved to Augusta Co., VA. His last four children were possibly born out of wedlock, as they were not accepted by John's older children and were bound out to pay John's debts after his death. As some sources show Obadiah Pritchett to be Sarah's second husband, rather than her first husband, she could have married him after separating from John.)
LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF JOHN GREER of Onslow Province
late of Maryland, dated 17 April 1752, proved 1 July.
North Carolina. In the name of God Amen I John Greer late of Maryland now residing in the County of Onslow and Province aforesaid being sick and weak of Body tho of Sound Mind and memory thanks be to Almighty God do make and ordain this to be my last Will and Testament hereby wishing and making void all wills by me before made. Imprimis I Bequeath my Soul unto the hands of Almighty God who Gave it and my Body I commit to the Earth to be decently Buried at the Descretion of my Executrix hereafter Named Item This my Will that all my Lawful Debts be immediately Paid Item I Give and Bequeath to my Six Sons John Greer Moses Greer Aquilly Greer William Greer Benjamin Joseph Greer Each of them twelve Pence Sterling to the Paid by my Executrix Item and Likewise my three Daughters Sarah Armstrong, Anne Starkey Elizabeth Davis each of them twelve Pence to the Paid by Executrix as aforesaid. Item I Give and Bequeath to my Son John Greer Jun. Son of Cloe Greer One Negro Man called Jack to him and his Heirs forever to be possesseth of at the age of Eighteen Years Item I give and Bequeath Likewise to my Son John my two Hunting Guns to him and his heirs forever Item I Give and Bequeath unto my Dearly beloved Wife Cloe Greer all my Personal Estate and Gun Stock Tools and all my tools that I am now Possesseth of Lastly I nominate and appoint my Dearly Beloved Wife Cloe Greer to be my Executrix of This my Last Will and Testament In Witness Whereof I have hereunto set my Hand and Seal this twenty seventh Day of April in the year of Our Lord God 1752
Signed Sealed and Published
Dlivered in the Presence of John Greer Sen
Henry Bishop. Sen his X mark
his H mark
her X mark
John Greer Sen (Stamp)
This Court Begun & held at Johnston on New River in & For the County of Onslow On the First Tuesday of July Anno Dom Before John Starkey, Esq & the rest of the Worshipful Justices & The Within Will of John Greer Proved by the Oath of Henry Bishop. & Sarah Bishop. & Cloe Greer the Executrix therein Named Qualified ny taken the Oath appointed by Law Ordered that she have Letters of Testamentary.
/s/ Thos Black Sen C.C.
Father: James GREER b: 1627 in Copenoch, Dumfriesshire, Scotland
Mother: Ann "Anna" TAYLOR b: ABT 1665 in Baltimore Co., MD
Sarah DAY b: ABT 1686 in Baltimore Co., MD
4 MAR 1703/04
in St. John's Parish, Joppa, Baltimore Co., MD
- James GREER b: ABT 1709 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore Co., MD
- William GREER b: ABT 1710 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore Co., MD
- Moses GREER b: ABT 1712 in GunPowder River, Baltimore Co., MD
- John GREER b: BET 1714 AND 1718 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore Co., MD
- Aquilla GREER b: BET 1716 AND 1719 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore Co., MD
- Sarah GREER b: ABT 1721 in St. John's Parish, Gunpowder River, Baltimore Co., MD
- Ann GREER b: 15 FEB 1720/21 in St. John's Parish, Gunpowder River, Baltimore Co., MD
- Joseph GREER b: 6 JAN 1726/27 in Gunpowder River, Baltimore Co., MD
- Benjamin GREER b: 6 JAN 1726/27 in Gunpowder River, Balitmore Co., MD
- Rebecca GREER b: ABT 1730 in Baltimore Co., MD
- Alexander GREER b: ABT 1732 in Baltimore Co., MD
- Martha GREER b: ABT 1734 in Baltimore Co., MD
- Mary GREER b: ABT 1736 in Baltimore Co., MD
- John GREER b: ABT 1738 in Baltimore Co., MD
- Title: Descendants of Hugh II
Author: Ralph Terry, editor
Note: http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/rterry1/greer-d.htm; Researched by Samuel Taylor Geer
Page: John Greer (#516)