Name: Margaret LLOYD
Birth: Aug 1759 in Frederick Co., Virginia
Death: 1 Aug 1844 in Bartholomew, Co., Indiana
Burial: Bick Farm Cemetery, Columbus, Indiana
MARGARET LLOYD (Henry Sr., David)
Change Date: 21 Jun 2004 at 01:00:00
This daughter MARGARET, I have placed here in this record because as far as we know, she did not go to Penn. with her father. The only records we have been able to find of her, were after her marriage to JOHN CARNEY.
MARGARET LOYD (Lloyd) b. August 1759 in Frederick Co., Va. (a)(b)
Died Aug. 1844 in Bartholomew Co., Ind. Buried in Bick Farm cemetery, near Columbus, Ind. I understand that the grave marker said that she was 85 years old when she died.
Married JOHN CARNEY, possibly in Botetourt Co., Va. though no record has been found there, (d)
JOHN CARNEY b. April 15, 1757 in Frederick Co., Va. (b, j)
Died possibly 1844. According to Mrs. Gene Tennant of Linton, Ind. the family think 1844 was the date of death because great grandmother, MARIAH JANE BLACKLETTER said that she had been told that Margaret and John died within three weeks of each other, and are both buried in Bick Cemetery where her daughter, KATIS ROBB found Margaret's marker in 1923. A broken one close to it, Mariah said, was John's. The family has record of his Rev. War Pension being paid last on Sept. 4, 1840 in Jennings Co., Ind. But the family moved to Bartholomew Co. that year and they do not have further record. If there is one it might be found in National Archives.
John enlisted in the Revolution in 1776 in Botetourt Co., Va. where his father and a sister, Elizabeth and brother, Thomas and probably other members of the family went from Frederick Co. John was also discharged in Botetout Co. where he came in 1774.
HENRY LOYD's estate papers (d) in Huntingdon Co., Pa. 1802 say that he had a daughter, MARGARET married to JOHN CARNEY. The only John Carney in Virginia found who was married to a Margaret, was the one mentioned above. We know nothing of Margaret until she was Margaret Carney. John's Rev. pension papers say her name was Margaret FLOYD. There were Floyd families in Virginia but we do know that Loyd, Loyde, Floyd, Flood were common corruptions of the Welch name of Lloyd. (Llwyd).
Mr. STUART LLOYD of New Jersey talked with a Welch couple who were visiting in this country, and they told him that the double LL is pronounced in Welch almost like our English F. So, no doubt those early Welch pronounced it the Welch way, and the English recorder had to write down about what he heard, since few people could spell, read or write in those days. So names in the early records are very confusing.. I am personally convinced that this is the record of Henry Lloyd's dau. Margaret, and three or four of her descendants have written me that they are convinced too. Mrs. ANNE 0'NAN of Indianapolis, Ind. told me that some research had been done on Margaret Floyd but that she had never been found. In a Miami Co. History, Ohio, DAVID LLOYD was written as FLOYD.(c) The name of one of Margaret's children adds to the evidence that she was a Lloyd. She had a son HENRY, the name of her father, and of a brother.
Circumstantial evidence indicates that she also had a son DAVID, the name of her grandfather, and a brother. His full name was DAVID LLOYD CARNEY! He was b. in 1781 when she was about 21 or 22, in Botetourt Co., Va. Later he lived in Cincinnati, and then across the river in Campbell Co., Ky. This area is not too far from Jennings and Bartholomew counties, Ind. so several things fit in pretty well, tho we have no proof so far. On the strength of this, I include DAVID LLOYD CARNEY's record along with MARGARET'S other children. Mr. RICHARD BECKNER of Bradenton, Fla., a descendant of David L. Carney, agrees that Margaret Floyd was MARGARET LLOYD, daughter of HENRY Sr. LLOYD.
After leaving Virginia the Carney family went to what was then Washington Co. North Carolina which became Tennessee and included most of what is now the state of Tennessee. THOMAS CARNEY is listed in Washington Co. Tenn Tax lists until 1799. About 1801 John at least, moved his family to Scott Co. Ky. where an early WILLIAM CARNEY was living in 1800. (1800 census) They stayed there until 1819, when they went to Jennings Co., Ind. and lived there for a number of years. In 1840 PLEASANT & ELIZABETH made another move, this time to Bartholomew Co., Ind. By this time JOHN and MARGARET were living with them, and went along. This bit of the family story was given to me by various descendants.
ISSUE of John & Margaret Carney
DAVID LOYD CARNEY b. 1781 in Va., possibly Botetourt Co. (1).
Died between 1855 and 60 in Campbell Co., Ky. m. SARAH BEALL.
PLEASANT CARNEY b. March 10, 1786, Botetourt Co. Va.(f) d. 1844 or 45. Married ELIZABETH EMERSON, (b)
Mrs. ANNE O'NAN of Indianapolis, Ind. wrote that she had been shown an old letter written by Pleasant which mentioned two brothers and a sister. They were JOHN,HENRY, & JULIA. No further data.
Father: Henry LLOYD I b: 1709 in Wales
Mother: Judith PEMBERTON b: in Virginia
John CARNEY b: 15 Apr 1757 in Frederick Co., Virginia
- David Lloyd CARNEY b: 1781 in Virginia
- John CARNEY Jr. b: 1783 in Tennessee
- Pleasant CARNEY b: 10 Mar 1786 in Frederick Co., Virginia
- Henry CARNEY b: 1788 in Tennessee
- Julia CARNEY b: 1790 in Tennessee
- Title: Lloyd Notes and Facts, 1709-1990
Author: Reah Lloyd McGaffey
Publication: Electronic version transcribed by James Lloyd
Used with permission of James Lloyd