Name: Bernhard Clement DETERMAN
Given Name: Bernhard Clement
Sex: M 1 2 3 4 5 2 3 6 5
Birth: 23 NOV 1843 in Handrup, Germany 5 3 7
Death: 12 MAR 1917 in Browns Valley, Traverse, Minnesota
Burial: Browns Valley, Traverse County, Minnesota
Baptism: 24 NOV 1843 7
Emigration: ABT 1867 Bremen, Germany 4 6
NATU: BEF 1900 2 2
Ancestral File #: 17NS-XTV
Occupation: Farmer 1895 Minnesota 3 3
Occupation: Farmer ABT 1867 4 6
PROP: 26 OCT 1897 LaCrosse township, Jackson Co., Minnesota
Living 1895 LaCrosse township, Jackson Co., Minnesota 3 3
Living ABT 1867 Prussia 4 6
Living 1876 Haverhill, Marshall Co., Iowa 8 8
Living 1891 Bigelow, Nobles Co., Minnesota
Moved 1903 Browns Valley, Traverse, Minnesota
Immig Destinatn NOV 1867 Wisconsin 4 6
Immigrated On 17 OCT 1867 New York 6|
Father: Herman Bernard DETERMANN b: 6 NOV 1807 in Lengerich, Hannover, Germany
Mother: Maria Engel MANEMANN b: 15 APR 1809 in Germany
Josephine HARTMANN b: 5 DEC 1865 in Klein Triebendorf, Austria
2 JUL 1889
in Heron Lake, Jackson County, Minnesota
- Anna L DETERMAN b: 3 JUL 1890 in Ranson Township, Nobles Co., Minnesota
- Franz Joseph (Frank) DETERMAN b: 6 SEP 1891 in Ranson Township, Nobles Co., Minnesota
- Herman Bernard DETERMAN b: 26 NOV 1892 in Ranson Township, Nobles Co., Minnesota
- Rudolph DETERMAN b: 11 DEC 1894 in Jackson Co., Minnesota
- Frederika Theresa DETERMANN b: 4 SEP 1897 in Jackson Co., Minnesota
- Pauline DETERMANN b: 11 FEB 1900 in Jackson Co., Minnesota
- Leo DETERMAN b: 13 JUN 1902 in Jackson Co., Minnesota
- Henry Emil DETERMAN b: 21 OCT 1904 in Becker Twp, Roberts Co., South Dakota
- Josephine Angeline DETERMAN b: 22 MAR 1909 in Becker Twp, Roberts Co., South Dakota
- Abbrev: Mark Determan
Title: Mark C. Determan
Text: Hello, Brian.
Yes, we are related, although way back. From the information yougave, we are 4th cousins.
>From my genealogy information, your line looks like this:
1 Johann Wilhelm Determan marr Anna Maria Koelker (umlaut)
2 Bernhard Clemens Determan marr Maria Anna Sander
3 Johann Gerhard Determan marr May Jost
4 Caroline Ida (Etha?) Determan marr Michael CharlesBirgen
5 ___ Birgen marr ??
6 Brian Birgen
My line looks like this:
11 Herman Bernard Determan marr Anna Maria Determan (daughter of # 1above)
12 Bernhard Clement Determan marr Josephine Hartmann
13 Herman Bernard Determan marr Margaret Mary Hensel
14 Charles Frederick Determan marr Mary Louise Trupe
15 Mark Charles Determan (_me!_) marr BethKnofczynski
I have some further dates and other info about the Determan families,if you would like to learn more. If so, I would be interested infilling in the info for Caroline (Determan) Birgen. Feel free to sende-mail, or a letter.
- Abbrev: 1900 Minnesota Census - Soundex index
Title: 1900 Minnesota Census - Soundex index
Page: Jackson county, LaCrosse township
Volume 26, ED 100, Sheet 6, Line 35
- Abbrev: 1895 Minnesota Census
Title: 1895 Minnesota Census
Page: Jackson County, LaCrosse Township
- Abbrev: Germans to America
Title: Germans to America
Volume 18, page 219
Text: John Bernard (J. B.) Determan was born in Germany in the Kingdom ofHanover in 1842. He came to America at the end of the Civil War,landing in New York in October 1866. First he worked as a farm handin southern Wisconsin (near Potosi?), where he later operated a farm.During the time he lived in Wisconsin he helped his parents H.B. andAngela M. Determan and his siblings (Bernard, Herman, and Caroline)come to America.
His parents H. B. Determann and Angela Maria (Manemann) Determan wereborn near Lengerich, Hanover, Germany.
In a search for a farm to buy, J.B. Determan made several trips toIowa. One of these trips was made to Jefferson Township in MarshallCounty; another trip was to western Iowa, where he found gravel withintwelve inches of the top of the ground. In the fall of 1871 he made asecond trip by team and buggy to Jefferson Township. He arrived atsundown at the Ben Welp home after three days of travel. The Welpplace was located in Section 6 of Jefferson Township.
On September 19, 1871, he purchased 120 acres (at $25 an acre) in thenortheast part of Section 6 in Jefferson Township. Some parts of thetownship were still open for homesteading at that time. Afterpurchasing the farm he spent some time cleaning out the barns anddoing some fall plowing before he returned to Wisconsin with his teamand buggy. He stopped at night at the same places he camped at on theway down.
In March 1872, J.B. Determan and family loaded all their possessionsincluding livestock, farm machinery and household goods into a GreatWestern railroad boxcar in Wisconsin and started on the way to a newhome in Iowa. They arrived in Luray about March 19. It had beenraining for several days and the rain turned into a major sleet stormby the time they arrived. Without horseshoes on the horses they wereunable to unload the livestock the first day.
On March 23, 1872, three days after moving on the farm that he hadpurchased the fall before, J.B. and his dad H.B. Determan went toNewton to buy a load of coal for fuel. Upon their return that eveningthey found that Angela Maria Determan, wife of H.B. Determan, haddied. She was buried in a cemetery in Marshalltown, Iowa. Angela hadbeen the driving force to get the family moved to Iowa, only to bedenied the benefits of the move.
In 1873, J.B. Determan was married to Mary Spiker. J.B. and Mary hadseven children.
In 1881, J.B. Determan gave a right of way deed to the Chicago,Milwaukee, and St. Paul Railroad for almost three acres of land.
In 1882, the J.B. Determan family outgrew the three room house thatwas on the farm when they bought it, so a new eight room two storyL-shaped house was built to replace the old one. It was placed abouta hundred and twenty-five feet northwest from the original house. Abasement was dug and walled up with sandstone from Timber CreekTownship and two feet above ground was laid up with lime rock that washauled from the LeGrand quarry by team and wagon. The house was woodframe, lathed and plastered inside, with white pine six-inch siding onthe outside and red cedar shingles for a roof. The house was plannedwith two chimneys so all eight rooms had a chimney connection,therefore every room could have heat, if needed.
The new house was used for many gatherings and many dances were heldthere with the aid of a couple of fiddlers and a banjo player.
Having enough water for the livestock was a constant problem. A handdug well, ninety feet deep had so little water in it that it wasfilled up again without bricking it up. It was just east of thepresent drilled well. A second well was dug in the west part of theyard where two ravines came together. It produced much more water.
H.B. Determan died on March 27, 1890. He had lived with his son, J.B.Determan, since coming to America. One thing that H.B. did was togrow tobacco here. He started the plants in the house andtransplanted them in the rich cattle yards after the cattle wereturned to pasture in the spring. Corn, small grain and hay were themain crops. Most of the crops were fed to the cattle and hogs. Theanimals were then butchered on the farm and the meat was hauled totown.
After the ground was prepared for corn in the spring, a marker wasused one way across the field, then again at right angles to the firstset of lines. The seed corn was placed by hand where the two markscrossed. That made it possible to cultivate the crop in two differentdirections. One spring after the ground was prepared J.B. plantedninety rows using a hand planter with the rows starting north of theyard and running north to the road.
To this date the barns were pole buildings with roofs of threshedstraw or slew grass. During the blizzard of 1888 most of thesebuildings were almost covered with snow drifts and no one made it tothe barns for three days. The straw barns were on the hill west ofthe present barn. After the storm the hogs were found nestled near astraw shed where the wind had cut a narrow path in the snow partwayaround the shed. The cattle were walking on top of the snow banks andfeeding from the straw roofs. The straw sheds were almost filled withsnow. After that storm, plans were made to relocate the cattle yardscloser to the road and a frame barn was built the following year.
On January 11, 1892, Mary Spiker Determan, the wife of J.B. Determan,died.
On March 12, 1892, J.B. Determan purchased the NW 1/4 NE 1/4 ofSection 6 from William Welp and his wife Rosa, who had inherited allbut two acres from his father Ben H. Welp. The other two acres weredeeded by Ben H. Welp and wife Theresa Welp to John Hennessy, Bishopof Dubuque, dated and filed on November 19, 1872. These two acreslocated 1 1/4 miles west of the present town, became Lot 1 of Welp'ssub-division and is where the first Immaculate Conception Church wasbuilt and where the cemetery was plotted in 1877.
The coming of the windmill was one of the first labor-saving deviceson the farm. A new 60 foot aeromotor windmill was purchased to pumpwater for the cattle.
In 1895, J.B. Determan married Mary Rückerl who was born in Germany in1854. She was an older sister of Johanna Rückerl Determan, wife ofHermann Henry Determan.
During the summer of 1898 J.B. visited the Iowa State Fair in DesMoines. Of the many things on display he liked a 10' x 10' watersupply tank. Before leaving for home he purchased one to use on thefarm. By placing the tank on the higher ground, north of the house,the water could be pumped from the well by the windmill and piped to ahydrant in front of the house. A second hydrant was placed in theline from the well in the lower yard which made an ideal place to washbuggies and many people used it for that. The supply tank alsofurnished water on the windless days when the mill couldn't run. Thetank also furnished a constant supply of water for the livestock. Onvisiting the fair next year, the agent asked J.B. how he liked hissupply tank. His answer was,
"I liked it so much, I built a $100 shed over it"
When the new cemetery was plotted and put into use, around 1891, nearthe church in Haverhill, J.B. moved all deceased members of his familyto that cemetery. The bronze monument from the former Catholiccemetery 1 1/4 miles west of Haverhill, was moved to the new cemetery.
In 1908 J.B. Determan sold his farm to his son Bernard H. Determan andJ.B. and his wife retired and purchased a house in Haverhill acrossthe street in a northwestern direction from the Immaculate ConceptionChurch.
J.B. Determan died on March 15, 1923, and was buried in the ImmaculateConception Cemetery in Haverhill.
Mary Rückerl Determan lived in the same house until 1942 when shemoved to the farm of her stepson Bernard H. Determan and died thefollowing May in 1943.
Page: Volume 20, page 126
- Abbrev: Published Family Genealogy
Title: Published Family Genealogy
Page: Al Schoelen provided this information.
- Abbrev: Germans to America
Title: Germans to America
Page: Volume 20, page 126
- Abbrev: Church records
Title: Church records
Page: Copies of Catholic Church records, from Bishop's Archives inOsnabruck, Germany.
- Abbrev: Genealogist (Amateur)
Title: Genealogist (Amateur)
Page: James Pauley, Jr.
A monograph written August 14, 1991; includes information provided byDoris Ayars of Couer d'Alene, Idaho.