ID: I067
Name: Nancy B. Moore 1 2
Sex: F
Birth: 18 JUL 1788 in Southborough, Worcester Co., MA 1 3 4 5 6 7
Death: BET 1870 AND 1880 in prob. Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT 8 9 10 11
Note: She was originally found as Nancy B. ______, but her descendants Richard LaConte <xenos@foxinternet.net> and Richard Holden <Rah2020@aol.com> know her to be Nancy B. Moore. They are also the source for the 10 children of this union.
================================================================================== From: "Stephen Parker" <parkerstevel@msn.com> Subject: [VERMONT] Nancy (Moore) Holden Shrewsbury 1850 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:34:36 -0500
I have found a probable connection for Nancy Moore, who was married to Julius Sawtell Holden and lived in Shrewsbury, Vermont in 1850. The only argument against it is a record in the Southborough, MA records that gives her birthdate as 18 July 1798, whereas the census records all seem to indicate that our Nancy should have been born in 1788. However, I found in the 1800 census records for Marlborough, MA that the Carley Moore family had 1 female age 10-16 and none under 10. That indicates to me that somewhere in the translations of the records 1788 was misinterpreted as 1798, not at all an unlikely occurance.
Given this assumption, the ancestry of Nancy Moore would be as follows: Nancy Moore b 7/18/1788 Southborough, Worcester Co., MA Carley Moore b 2/18/1752 d 7/17/1804 Marlborough, Middlesex Co. MA m Ruth (last name still unknown, but I'd bet on Brigham)
We know that Nancy's mother was named Ruth, so this tracks. But get this, Nancy had two brothers named Breck Brigham Moore b 7/9/1795 and Hollis Galer Moore b 9/17/1797. Our Nancy named two of her sons Breck and Hollis, so we must be on the right trail.
The ancestry for Carley Moore going back in time is : Ashahel Moore m Abigail Johnson Jonathan Moore m Mary Fulham Jacob Moore m Elizabeth Loker John Moore m Elizabeth Whale
Look this over and dig around to see if you can verify or refute it, and please let me know your opinion.
Thanks,
Steve Parker --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Based on Steve's thoughts I did some of my own research and have found the ancestors of Nancy B. Moore as they are now shown in this database, and in a Anc Nancy B Moore.GED file, originally created 16 May 2006 and updated 20 June 2006, minor future updates are expected. ==================================================================================
In the 1860 census of Shrewsbury she was [age 71], living with Mrs Malinda Rhodes (age 50), Mrs Ruth Moore (age 92), and Charles Holden (age 1 ).
In the 1870 census of Shrewsbury she was age 81, living in the household of son-in-law "Zibia" Flanders and daughter Ruth R. (Holden) Flanders and four sons.
In the 1880 census of Andover, Windsor Co., VT, there is a Nancy Holden, age 91, identified as "mother" in the household of a William Johnson and wife Anna J. Johnson. Until just recently I thought that this census was our Nancy B. (Moore) Holden. I now know that is wrong. 1880 US Census, Andover, Windsor, Vermont William JOHNSON Self M Male W 66 MA Farmer MA MA <1814> Anna J. JOHNSON Wife M Fem. W 61 VT Keep Hse VT VT <1818/9> Nancy HOLDEN Mot. W Fem. W 91 MA MA MA <1789> Randall EATON Oth. W Male W 72 NH Farm Lab NH NH Source Information: Family History Library Film 1255350 NA Film Number T9-1350 Page Number 2D Her name is clearly Nancy Holden in the image of this census on Ancestry.com. Our Nancy Holden was in Shrewsbury, age 81, living in the household of son-in-law "Zibia" Flanders and daughter Ruth R. (Holden) Flanders. Our Nancy B. (Moore) Holden prob. died after 1870 but before 1880 in Shrewsbury, VT. If she were still living in 1880, she would most likely be in the family of her daughter Ruth R. (Holden) Flanders, and would have been in this household. 1880 US Census, Plymouth, Windsor Co., VT Ruth R. FLANDERS Self W Fem. W 68 VT Keeps House VT VT <1812> Loid N. JOSSELYN Oth. S Male W 24 VT Farmer VT VT Source Information: Family History Library Film 1255350 NA Film Number T9-1350 Page Number 191B She is not there, so I decided to check earlier censuses for the William Johnson family, and this is what I found: In the 1870 census of Andover, William Johnson household looks like this:
1870 US Census, VT, Windsor Co., Andover Image 4 of 15 on Ancestry.com 26 30 Johnson, Wm. A. , 57, M, Farmer, MA Johnson, Amilla , 58, F, KepHse, VT Johnson, Sarah J., 19, F, AtHome, VT Lackey, Wm. J. , 20, M, Farmer, VT Lackey, Affisell , 21, F, KepHse, VT Hedelen, Lewis , 93, M, RetMer, MA Hedelen, Nancy , 81, F, Board , VT <<This is the Nancy Holden in the 1880 census in the William Johnson household. It turns out that her name was Nancy Holden, but badly written by the enumerator. I looked for a Lewis any surname b. ~1777 in Mass. in the 1860 census of Vermont, there were two, Lewis Holden and Lewis S*. Apparently he is Lewis Holden and his wife is probably Nancy (--?--) Holden. In 1860 they are in Waitsfield. 1860 US Census, VT, Washington Co., Waitsfield Image 14 of 28 on Ancestry.com Lewis Holden household 1261 1276 Lewis Holden, 83, M, Farm Laborer, MA Nancy " , 72, F, , " And in 1850 they are also in Waitsfield.
1850 US Census, VT, Washington, Co., Waitsfield Image 4 of 25 on Ancestry.com Lewis Holden household (Idx. Lewis Halden) 25 25 Lewis Holden, 73, M, Farmer, MA Nancy " , 61, F, , " So I went to "Holden Genealogy" to see what I could find. Putnam, Eben, The Holden genealogy : ancestry and descendants of Richard and Justinian Holden and of Randall Holden Boston: unknown, 1923-1926, 1058 pgs. [HeritageQuest Online Books] Vol. 1, p. 219-20 22J3 Major Jonas (Jonas, John, Justinian), born 31 Aug 1756, at Sudbury; died about 1847, at Waitesfield, Vt., ... Children, born at Sudbury: 1 Lewis, born 21 Feb 1777, died 1870, at Waitsfield; married 21 June 1803 At Keene, NH, Phebe Sawin; (2) 8 June 1829, Nancy Kidder [Nancy (Kidder) Johnson a widow]. He lived at Waitsfield, 1806-1835, and from 1839-1870; at Weathersfield, 1835-9. ... The marriage of Lewis Holden and Nancy Johnson is found 8 June 1829, at Waitsfield. ... In other words, the Nancy Holden, age 91, mother, in household of William Johnson, in the 1880 census of Andover, Windsor, Vermont, was Nancy (Kidder) [Johnson] Holden, the second wife of Lewis Holden, and the mother of William A. Johnson by her first husband. And she just happens to be born in the same state and about the same time as Nancy B. Moore.
I now have in my database that Nancy B. (Moore) Holden died, between 1870 - 1880, probably in Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT, possibly from the same ailment that took Ziba Flanders in Jan 1871.
Father: Carley Moore b: 8 FEB 1750/51 in Southborough, Worcester Co., MA
Mother: Ruth Leonard b: 11 NOV 1768 in Southborough, Worcester Co., MA
Marriage 1
Julius Sawtell Holden b: 13 DEC 1783 in Shirley, Middlesex Co., MA
- Married:
ABT 1810
in prob. Rutland Co., VT 12 13
- Event:
Other-Ending
BET 1830 AND 1840
in Rutland Co., VT; Julius Sawtell Holden apparently left his wife and children in Vermont when he went to Bradford Co., Penn., joining his parents, a sister and two brothers. 14
- Note:
LDS IGI File: Julius Sawtell HOLDEN Sex: M Marriage(s): Spouse: Nancy B Marriage: Abt. 1808 Of, Shirley, Middlesex Co., MAssachusetts Source Information: Film Number: 1985286
Children
Reuben Chamberlain Holden b: 5 JUL 1811 in Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT Ruth Rebecca Holden b: 22 APR 1813 in Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT Breck Moore Holden b: 11 APR 1815 in Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT Dianna Minerva Holden b: 21 MAY 1817 in Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT Hollis Karl Holden b: 8 FEB 1819 in Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT Squire Henry Holden b: 11 MAR 1823 in Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT Erastus Harvey Holden b: 23 JUL 1824 in Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT Orin Clark Holden b: 17 FEB 1826 in Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT George Ridley Holden b: 6 APR 1827 in prob. Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT Roxanna Elizabeth Holden b: 30 OCT 1829 in Shrewsbury, Rutland Co., VT Sources:
- Title: The Holden Genealogy
Author: Eben Putnam Publication: Boston: unknown, 1923-1926 Repository: Note: HeritageQuest Online, via Dover Public Library Media: Book Page: Vol. 2, p. 295-6, 19316.2 Julius Sawtelle [Holden] Text: ... b. 13 Dec 1783, at Shirley; d. bet. 1850 and 1860; mar. Nancy B. Moore, b. 1788 in Massachusetts. ...
- Title: The Holden Genealogy
Author: Eben Putnam Publication: Boston: unknown, 1923-1926 Repository: Note: HeritageQuest Online, via Dover Public Library Media: Book Page: Vol. 2, p. 295-6, 19316.2, Julius Sawtelle [Holden] Text: ... [he] married Nancy B. Moore, born 1788 in Massachusetts. ...
- Title: 1850 US Census, VT, Rutland Co., Shrewsbury
Note: 1850 Census, VT, Rutland Co., Mount Holly: Images #707 - 743 1850 Census, VT, Rutland Co., Shrewsbury: Images #744 - 774 Repository: Note: Ancestry.com Media: Census Page: Sawtell Holden household Text: Nancy Holden, 62, F, , MA <1787/8>
- Title: 1850 US Census, VT, Rutland Co., Shrewsbury
Note: 1850 Census, VT, Rutland Co., Mount Holly: Images #707 - 743 1850 Census, VT, Rutland Co., Shrewsbury: Images #744 - 774 Repository: Note: Ancestry.com Media: Census Page: Sawtell Holden household Text: Nancy Holden, 62, F, , MA <1788>
- Title: 1800 US Census, MA, Middlesex Co., Marlborough
Repository: Note: Image 2 of 8 on Ancestry.com Media: Census Page: Carley Moore 20001 01010 Text: 0 F 0>10 - (No female b. 1790-1800.) 1 F 10>15 - Nancy, b. 1785-1790
- Title: 1790 US Census, MA, Worcester Co., Southborough
Repository: Note: Image 1 of 2 on Ancestry.com Media: Census Page: Charles Moor 102 Text: 2 F -- Ruth, 22 & Nancy, 2
- Title: Massachusetts Vital Records to 1850
Publication: NEHGS [Online Database] Repository: Note: http://www.nehgs.org/ Media: Electronic Page: Nancy Moor Text: 1798[88] MOOR Nancy, d. Curly and Ruth, July 18, 1798 [1788]. Birth Southborough [Error, recorded as 1798, should be 1788.]
- Title: 1870 US Census, VT, Rutland Co., Shrewsbury
Note: Img. 4 = Zibie Flanders hh, Img. 29 = Henry Holden hh Repository: Note: Image 4 & 29 of 29 on Ancestry.com Media: Census Page: Zibie Flanders household Text: Holden, Nancy B, 81, F, No Occ, MA (Mother of Ruth R. (Holden) Flanders.)
- Title: 1880 US Census, VT, Windsor Co., Andover
Repository: Note: FamilySearch.com & Ancestry.com Media: Census Page: William & Anna J. Johnson household Text: Holden, Nancy, Mot. W Fem. W 91 MA MA MA <1789> (This looks like our Nancy B. Holden, but it is not, see this household in 1870.)
- Title: 1870 US Census, VT, Windsor Co., Andover
Repository: Note: Image 4 of 15 on Ancestry.com Media: Census Page: Wm. A. Johnson household Text: Johnson, Amilla , 58, F, KepHse, VT : Hedelen, Lewis , 93, M, RetMer, MA Hedelen, Nancy , 81, F, Board , VT <<(This is person ID'd as Nancy Holden in 1880, she is not Nancy B. (Moore) Holden.)
- Title: Personal Knowledge
Author: A. D. Braley Repository: Media: Other Page: Nancy Holden, 91, mother, in 1880 census was Nancy (Kidder) [Johnson] Holden Text: She was the second wife of Lewis Holden, and the mother of William A. Johnson by her first husband. She just happens to have been born in the same state and about the same time as Nancy B. (Moore) Holden. Source: Several censuses & "Holden Genealogy" on HeritageQuest.
- Title: Personal Theory
Author: A. D. Braley Repository: Media: Other Page: Abt 1810 prob. in Rutland Co., VT Text: The History of Shirley does have a Moors family but there is no Ruth, wife of any, and no daughter Nancy of any. A likely census entry for Julius Sawtell Holden does not appear until the 1820 census Shrewsbury, where they have 3 males under 10 and 1 female under 10.
- Title: 1820 US Census, VT, Rutland Co., Shrewsbury
Repository: Note: Image 4 of 9 on Ancestry.com Media: Census Page: Sawtel Holden 300010 1001001 Text: 3 M 0<10 - Reuben(9), Breck(5) & Hollis(1) 1 M 26<45 - Sawtel(36) 1 F 0<10 - Ruth(7) [?Dianna(3) died?] 1 F 26<45 - Nancy(32)
- Title: Tri-Counties Genealogy & History
Author: Joyce M. Tice Publication: Roots Web [Online Database] Note: Also: Ancestry.com [Online Database] Repository: Note: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pabradfo/census/1840wysx.htm Media: Internet Page: 1840 US Census, PA, Bradford Co., Wysox Twp. Text: Holden Julius 00000001 00000000001 2 355 1 M 50>60 - Julius, 56 1 F 80>90 - Hannah, ~83, Mother Holden Octavius A. 00000010001 2 361 Sartile Holden 89 Holden Gustavius A. 0100001 00001 3 361
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