ID: I83848670
Name: Elva Lucinda ROSE
Given Name: Elva Lucinda
Surname: ROSE
Sex: F
Birth: 20 AUG 1862 in Page Co, IOWA
Death: 28 JAN 1943 in Hardin Twp, Ray Co, MISSOURI
Burial: 30 JAN 1943 Fairhaven Cemetery, Norborne, Carroll Co, MISSOURI 1 2
Note: DEATH: Another source lists death 1945, same location, this is an error.
BURIAL: Fairhaven Cemetery, Norborne, Carroll Co, Missouri. Lot 2, Block 8, Section C. Buried as Lucinda Weaver 20 Jun 1859- 28 Jan 1943, but she was really born in 1862. Source; Earl Moentmann, the kind caretaker that took the time to go out and find this grave for us. By Cathi Hicks in memory of James Allen Walker that gave us the clues to find this.
DEATH; Death Certificate, #3243 Hardin, Ray Co, MO Lucinda Weaver Bn: 20 AUG 1859 Bedford, Bates Co, IA Died:28 JAN 1953 Husband: John L. Weaver; Mother: L. Rebecca Rose Informant: W. A. Tabler CENSUS: 1880 Iowa, Taylor Co, Dallas twp, pg 45A, H/H 39 Helmick, William 46 Lucinda 17 wife Emma 15 dau Sarah 12 dau Henry J. 10 son Emma 8 dau Minni 4 dau Maud 1 dau 1885 Iowa State Census, Lucinda Helmick 23 Female, single (really WD ?), bn Page Co, pg #225, Line #25, h/h 94, twp Nodaway, Clarinda, 2nd ward. Source: MSnelling Snelling49@aol.com
1900 Colorado, Arapahoe Co,Idalia Precinct,District 141,16 June 1900, Ancestry Image 7. Weaver, John Loy 59 bn Oct 1840 M @16 bn TN Lucinda 37 Aug 1862 @16 IA 8 Kids/7 living Ike 18 Jun 1881 IA (really Helmick) Fred 14 Aug 1885 IA (Helmick ?) Bertie 13 Oct 1886 IA (Bert) Myrtle 11 Dec 1888 IA Effie 7 May 1893 MO (Ethel) Ida 6 Feb 1894 MO James 2 Mar 1898 MO
1910 Colorado,Kit Carson Co, Pct 3,pg 214, Ancestry image 1,H/H 9 Weaver, John L. 69 bn TN md 24 yrs Lucindy 49 IA 24 yrs 23kids/19 living kids (I think this should be 13 Kids/ 9 living) Bert Loy 23 IA Effie Alice 17 MO (Ethel Alice) Ida Belle 15 MO James F. 10 MO Julia R. 9 CO (Matilda Rebecca) Elvia L. 5 MO (This would support the 1905 birth date) Source: Thompson, Genie Look up. 1920 Colorado, Yuma Co, Wray ED 273 Lucinda Weaver 58 WD is listed as mother in law & in H/H of Charles Walker, Elva L., wife & Hallie (I believe this is Nellie)daughter.
1930 Missouri, Jackson Co, Kansas City, Ward 14,sheet 36, Ancestry image 71. H/H 3122, Family 110 Weaver, Fred H. 45 md @18 bn IA Ella 50 md @31 bn Wife Lusinda 67 Wd bn IA Mother Aide, Becky 94 Wd bn MO Grandmother Source: 1900,1920,1930 census by MSnelling Snelling49@aol.com
ANNIE STUCK states LUCINDA EVE ROSE was married to BIll HELMICK June 1880. She left him before her son IKE HELMICK, was born on JUNE 25, 1881. Bill Helmick had been married before and his children ,the step children, were the indirect cause of the seperation. She said Bill was good to her, but he had to be away from home so much leaving her with the step children.
In a letter from ANNIE STUCK she states MARY ELLEN ROSE (AID) was born 11 NOV. 1877: Her fathers name was BAKER: MINNIE BELL AID was born 10 JAN 1883.She did not name mother. She also states FRED WEAVER was born 23 AUG 1884 ( He was not WEAVERS child. LUCINDA would never divulge the name of FRED'S father
Our theory is that REBECCA AID, LUCINDA'S mother, was not able to have any more children after many miscarriages with ROSE. LUCINDA had MARY ELLEN by a man named BAKER in 1877. MARY lived with BAKERS for awhile before going with REBECCA to COLO. where she married JAMES HOLLY BENSON.We believe LUCINDA had MINNIE BELL in 1883 and FRANK JAMES was the father. She left her with REBBECA to raise. REBECCA claimed MINNIE BELL as her daughter to get JOHN AIDS CIVIL WAR pension. The father of FRED is unknown but will be carried in our records as FRED HENRY WEAVER.
Father: John ROSE b: Abt 1803 in , , VIRGINIA
Mother: Rebecca Ida GOODIN b: 07 Jan 1842 in Morgan Co. OH
Marriage 1
William M. HELMICK b: abt 1833 in , , OHIO
- Married:
14 May 1880
in Taylor CO.-IOWA
Children
Isaac Harrison HELMICK b: 25 June 1881 in , Taylor Co, IOWA Fred Henry HELMICK b: 25 AUG 1885 in New Market, Page Co, IOWA Marriage 2
John Loy WEAVER b: 20 Oct 1840 in Loys Crossroads, Anderson Co, TENN
- Married:
24 Feb 1885
in Clarinda, Page Co, IOWA
Children
Fred Henry WEAVER b: 25 AUG 1885 in New Market, Page Co., IOWA Bert Loy WEAVER b: 25 Oct 1886 in Clarinda, Page Co, IOWA Myrtle Clement WEAVER b: 7 Dec 1888 in , Page Co, IOWA John Roscoe WEAVER b: 25 Dec 1891 in , Page Co, IOWA Ethel Alice WEAVER b: 31 May 1893 in , , MISSOURI Ida Belle WEAVER b: 24 Feb 1895 in , , MISSOURI James Floyd WEAVER b: 04 Mar 1898 in , , MISSOURI Matilda Rebecca WEAVER b: 15 Aug 1900 in Idalia, Arapahoe Co, COLORADO Elva Lucille WEAVER b: 11 JAN 1905 in Kansas City, Jackson Co, MISSOURI Sources:
- Title: Jim Walker Papers 2005
Repository: Repository:
- Author: CATHY HICKS
Title: Tombstone Text: LOT 2 BLOCK 8 Section C LUCINDA WEAVER 20 JUNE 1859to 28 JAN 1943 MYRTLE TABLER 1888 1981 Repository: Repository: Repository:
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