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  • ID: I2185
  • Name: William HERBERT 1
  • Sex: M
  • Birth: 9 MAR 1732/33 2 3 1
  • Death: 1776 4 3 1
  • Burial: Montgomery (now Wythe) Co., VA 3 1
  • Occupation: Mine Supt. of Lead Mine 3 1
  • Event: Unknown-Begin Bristol, England; Montgomery (now Wythe) Co., VA 3 1
  • Event: Unknown-Begin In Dunmore's War & Rev. War 3 1
  • Note:
    [hunter.FTW]

    Alias: William /Harbert/ Custom Field:<_FA#> One of Founders of Boiling Springs Presbyterian Church on Reed Creek in 1769. @S54914@ Date of Import: Fe b 2, 1980 [hun2.FTW] On 20 Apr 1763, William Herbert (Sr.) made an agreement w ith Col. John Chiswell, on behalf of partners John Robinson & Wm. Byre, to pro ceed to the Colony of Virginia by a vessel provided by Chiswell, from the port of Bristol with his wife and her "maid servant". Beginning on 20 Apr 1763, Herbert was to serve a seven year term of employment at the rate of L.130 ster ling. In addition, Chiswell was to provide him with a "good and convenient dw elling house for his station with convenient out houses for his cattle and twe nty acres of good pasture ground". If Herbert "should be minded to quit" and return to Bristol, England, Chiswell agreed to pay for the return of Herbert a nd his wife and her maid as well as any child or children they might have. Th is return could take place after a three year period of service and written no tice (Deposition of Wm. Herbert, Herbert vs. Ferrell, lawsuit included in Chis well Judgements, Box 32, May Term 1827, Wythe Co. Circuit Court Clerk's Office . In the agreement with Chiswell, Herbert indicated he was to act as "manager or conductor" of their "works for smelting and refining ores and metals in th e said colony to which art or mystery your orator (Herbert) had been regularly brought up" The lawsuit also refers to others brought from Bristol to work f or Chiswell. They were David Herbert, Sr. (Wm's father), David Herbert, Jr., (Wm's brother), and John Jenkins (Wm's brother-in-law, who married Wm's sister Mary). Also included were Roger Oates, Charles Devereaux and Evan Williams a nd "sundry others". The men as a group were referred to as the Welsh miners, although they were hired in Bristol, England. The Mendip Hills west of Bristo l, coal mines, and other mining activities in and near Bristol apparently brou ght the miners across the Bristol Channel from Wales. On 6 Mar 1764, Herbert wrote to William Byrd, one of the partners at the mines, and the address he us ed was "The Wilsh Mines." Generaly the mines were referred to as Chiswell's m ines. The letter gave Herbert's opinion of the mines, which he described as " the apparance of the vain of the surfuis is such as I never had seen before al l tho I have seen most mines of note in His Majestys Uropean dominions." In 1 767 he purchased his first land from Richard Stanton. This tract was 460 acre s at Poplar Camp, a tract granted to John Bingamin in 1753 (Augusta Co. Deed B ook 14, p. 424). In 1769, Herbert was recommended as a justice of the peace f or Augusta Co. In that same year he was listed as a representative of Boiling Springs Prsbyterian Congregation, a church located in the vicinity of the boi ling spring on the north side of Reed Creek near Graham's Forge (Wilson, Tinkl ing Spring, p. 171). When the new County of Botetourt was formed, William was recommended as justice of the peace in 1770 and received the appointment. He presented to the Botetourt County Court, a captain's commission in the militar y and took the usual oaths at the same time he took the oath as Justice of the Peace, and Justice of the County Court in Chancery and Justice of Oyer and T erminer. On 10 May 1770, William Herbert, Sr., was ordered to take the list of tithables on the New River and "waters thereof" on both sides, as high as Sa yers. In June 1771, he took the list for his own company, and in 1773, John M ontgomery took the list in Herbert's Company (Summers, Annals, pp. 82, 126, 60 6). The surviving lists for 1771 contains 123 names and a total of 156 tithab les (Wm. Herbert, Jr. was listed). When Fincastle County was formed, Herbert w as again recommended to serve as a justice of the peace. In 1773, Herbert was appointed overseer of the road from his ferry to the head of Poplar Camp Cree k. With the ferry in operation and many people




    Father: David HERBERT b: ABT. 1700 in Wales or England
    Mother: Martha ?

    Marriage 1 Sarah FRY b: BEF. 1745 in England
    • Married: 18 DEC 1758 in Bristol, England 4 3 1
    • Note:
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      Custom Field:<_FA#> 13 DEC 1758Marriage Bond (copy) states Wm. & Sarah both fr om St. Philip & Jacob Parish. @S54914@ Date of Import: Feb 2, 1980 [hun2.FTW] The marriage bond for Wm. Herbert, Sr. & Sarah Fry is dated 13 Dec 1758. It indicates that Wm. & Sarah were from the Parish of St. Philips & Jacob, County of Gloucester, Diocese of Bristol, that Wm. was a "Smelt Refiner of Silver", and that Sarah Fry was a spinster. The baptismal register (1758-1774) of St. Philip & Jacob, Bristol, shows that the first child of the Herberts was born d ead on 19 Aug 1759. The second child Johanna, was born 16 Sep 1762, when the family lived on Avon Street in the heart of the city of Bristol, England, not far from the present shot tower. It is possible that this Johanna Herbert is the same one mentioned on the burial register as buried 17 Dec 1762. However, other information indicate that Herbert children who lived to maturity were a Joanna, Martha, William, Jr. and Thomas. Above from "Early Adventures on th e Western Waters", Vol III, by Mary B. Kegley p. 273-274. Notes compiled Janua ry, 1952 by Mary H. Blackman (now deceased), Rock Hill SC from S.W. Webb (or W est?) "Families of Roanoke". Herbert data follows: Our William Herbert came from Bristol, England. Sarah Fry, the daughter of Lord Fry of England, eloped with William Herbert and came to Virginia. They settled in Dinwiddie Co. Th ey were married by the Captain of the ship on the high seas. Their son, Willi am, in later years settled in Wythe Co., VA. He was owner of what is known as the Lead Mines Estate. He was one of the largest owners in that part of VA. He had a large family; I recall but three of the childred: Polly, eldest daug hter, married Col. Richard Gentry, owner of "Old Fields" on new river in Ashe Co.,* NC. David Sheffey went west and spent his days in gold regions of CA. El ijah was born in "Lead Mines, Wythe Co., VA, Mar 1800. He married Winifred A lexander of NC. He later moved with his wife to what is now Clay Co., "Herbe rt's Bend". Eligah was the grandson of Lord Fry-Lady Sarah Humphries (nee Fry ). Note that this information conflicts with marriage records at Bristol, Eng land. Possibly it results from confusing the fact that Wm. Jr. married Polly Humphries (who may have been referred to as Lady Humphries). Various persons named Humphries appear on documents in VA & in NC related to the Herberts (or later Harberts). A cousin, John C. Herbert was state senator from Clay Co., NC . Robert Thornton Early of Hillsdale, VA writes "Johanna Herbert married John Early, Sr. & John Early was his (Robt. Thornton Early's) grandfather. His f ather was Herbert Early. Poplar Camp, at Hilldale, VA, was the home of William Herbert I. Captain Herbert's fine colonial record may be used for membership in Colonial Dames. Home place -- Herbert's Bend NC, at the bend of the Hiwas sey River**. Large family, all educated. * Ashe Co. NC is on New River just upstream (south) from Wyth Co, VA & East of Surry Co., NC, where the Humphries & David Herbert later lived. Hiwasseee River now has a dam (Hiwassee Dam & L ake Hiwassee) in the far western tip of NC in Cherokee Co.
    Children
    1. Has Children William HERBERT b: 1765 in Wythe County, Virginia

    Sources:
    1. Title: hunter.FTW
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      Media: Other
      Text: Date of Import: Feb 21, 2001
    2. Title: Early Adventurers on The Western Waters, Vol III, Part 1
      Author: Mary B. Kegley
      Publication: 1995
      Note: The New River of Virginia in Pioneer Days, 1745-1805
      Repository:
      Note:
      Page: 273-274
      Note: Early Adventurers on the Western Waters", Vol III, Part 1, by Mary B. Kegley, p. 273-274. Birth for Wm. Herbert, Sr., reportedly from family Bible, DAR application of Blanch McDaniel. Other descenda nts claimed b. 1731 in a DAR application.
    3. Title: Claude W. Hunter
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